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Goodbye Windows, hello IE9 and the cloud

By | September 16, 2010, 2:14am PDT

Summary: Microsoft’s next browser, released in beta today, treats websites as applications. By moving the focus of activity up off the desktop into the browser, IE9 concedes the supremacy of cloud computing.

It seems mightily ironic that it should be a new browser release from Microsoft, of all people, that finally treats websites as applications. It’s been a long time coming — a decade at least — but I felt a sense of quiet satisfaction when I read Ed Bott’s review of the IE9 beta release, especially the second page on treating websites as apps.

I still remember back in 1999-2000 being shown a number of so-called web operating systems, which attempted to turn the browser into a workspace that both emulated and sought to replace the Windows desktop. Now Microsoft itself is conspiring to turn the browser into an application windowing system that, while tuned to take advantage of the underlying client environment, is at the same time independent of it.

IE9 effaces itself by adopting a minimalist frame and giving users the option of pinning shortcuts to individual websites to the desktop taskbar, treating them as if they were applications in their own right. Those shortcuts open a new browser window that’s branded with the website’s favicon and its dominant color, but which can still have other sites open in tabs within in it. Ed explains the advantage of this:

“It didn’t take long for me to begin creating groups of three or four related tabs for a common activity. For example, I have my blog’s home page pinned to the Taskbar, and I usually open Google Analytics and the WordPress dashboard for the site. Keeping those three tabs in a single group makes it easy for me to click the ZDNet icon on my Taskbar and find one of those tasks, which previously were scattered among dozens of open tabs.”

This is a welcome convenience that underlines how dependent many of us now are on web-based applications in our daily routines. But as more and more applications shift to the cloud, we’ll want much deeper integration between them than this (the phrase ‘lipstick on a pig’ comes to mind). IE9 will make it marginally easier to find your Salesforce.com contact list when a prospect email arrives in your Gmail inbox, but it’s hardly going to transform the way you work. For that, you’ll want much deeper integration of both data and process, all of which will take place in the cloud or the browser. IE9 moves the focus up off the desktop into the browser, and in doing so concedes the supremacy of cloud computing.

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Since 1998, Phil Wainewright has been a thought leader in cloud computing as a blogger, analyst and consultant. He founded pioneering website ASPnews.com, and later Loosely Coupled, which covered enterprise adoption of web services and SOA. As CEO of strategic consulting group Procullux Ventures, he has developed an evaluation framework to help ISVs and enterprises select cloud platforms, and advises US and European vendors on messaging, positioning and go-to-market. His newest role as an industry advocate is vice-president of EuroCloud.

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RE: Goodbye Windows, hello IE9 and the cloud
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Ed Bott: Verbose. Phil Wainewright: Concise, to the point.
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 16th Sep 2010
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Phil Wainewright doesn't 'sugar coat' his point of view.

Keep 'em coming.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

And You: Troll to the core
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@redash79,

I would usually agree with you about schmitz, however this is some what relevant. Ed Bott was mentioned in the article and his blog posts are more often than not "pro-Microsoft". They lack a sense of neutrality that would lend more credibility. This article is neither pro or anti-Microsoft. It does demonstrate Microsoft's acknowledgement that emphasis is shifting away from the desktop. Microsoft is obviously adjusting their strategy.
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and the name he's using to post on zdnet ends with two numbers.
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RE: Goodbye Windows, hello IE9 and the cloud
Arabalar Updated - 19th Aug
@redash79 Im a Tmobile customer and I've been waiting patiently for a smartphone with the comparable list of features of smartphones carried by other networks. I really love their service and the reliability of their network (the two qualities that have prevented me from switching to verizon or att), but if they dont get a list of phones comparable to those other two carriers Im going to have to switch. generator rex oyunlari
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Ed Bott - thoroughly researches his material and gives you the facts.

Phil has been writing fairy tales and describing castles in the cloud for some time now.

Full marks for Phil's creative writing skills, but I'll take Ed for technical knowledge and facts any day.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

In between downloading and compiling your endless distros for your Linux hobby, do you actually get time to use any of these "cloud" solutions? I'm glad to use Office Live if I'm stuck somewhere and need to edit a document, but use it instead of Office - I'm not that masochistic.

Apparently you are.

As for Phil, his blogs are as clear as mud and he's not tilting at giants, just windmills.
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And to see the windows team backing that someone who gets it is not just refreshing it is totally unexpected.

I guess there's still hope for Microsoft, after all. Let us hope that the nasty internal politics that rules there does not destroy another good idea as it has done some many times in the past.
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IE9 spells more trouble for Flash
OS Reload 16th Sep 2010
As I just read on twitter: "IE9 is going to throw more dirt on Flash's grave than Apple could shovel."

So true!
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True...
techconc 16th Sep 2010
@OS Reload

Apple has almost always set the direction, but it's not until the be behemoth follows that change truly happens. I don't think this is a surprise to anyone, including Apple. Microsoft's "clout" comes by way of the masses of mindless dolts that simply use IE by default, despite being years behind every other browser on the market. When they get there is less important than the fact that they do get there and bring at least basic HTML 5 features to the masses.
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@techconc
I think it's funny that you guys keep complaining about IE and HTML 5 features...when HTML 5 standards haven't even been released from W3C yet....who's a dolt?
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Enterprises kept IE6 alive for too long
Patanjali 16th Sep 2010
@techconc
IE6 was the mainstay of internal and B2B web apps for most enterprises. MS put a lot of extras into it to make it useful to building workflows around, not just personal browsing.

Unfortunately, IE6 comes from a time when web standards were a very moving goalpost with a lot of competition to define what would become standard. Not that it has slowed down a lot today, but at least there are not the variations in the underlying DOM, because the standards are making sure they include the facilities business needs to have to make browser workflows reliable.

At my current client (a bank), IE6 is still being used. I can't use it to do posts like this because it doesn't work. But it still works for all the business stuff and is stable.
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How?
Michael Alan Goff 16th Sep 2010
@OS Reload

I don't see IE9 doing anything to Flash. People need to realize, and they need to realize fast, that HTML5 will not kill Flash. There are so many things that Flash does that HTML5 can't right now.

So Flash will get h.264 (oh wait, it has it) and it will stick around for a long time.

How will I9 even damage it? It supports flash, fyi.
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RE: Goodbye Windows, hello IE9 and the cloud
Economister Updated - 16th Sep 2010
I read your blog, thought about it and re-read the headline. Are you saying that MS has started down the road of making Windows unnecessary for a lot of casual users?

If so, what are they going to sell them? Cloud services I presume, but that is a much tougher market for MS.
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@Economister

Microsoft will sell both Windows and cloud services. Cloud will never replace the local machine. There are apps that are too resource intensive for the cloud like graphics. Also there are privacy issues. The cloud isn't good enough for folks that have sensitive data. No, they will coexist like any other tech and will be chosen on the basis of what will work best for each particular model.
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I think the key phrase in my post was....
Economister Updated - 16th Sep 2010
@osreinstall

"casual user". I agree with your post completely, but a large percentage of MS customers (via OEM HW) don't need all the functions and power they are getting and have too much trouble keeping it running reliably and uncompromised. This is where the simple appliance running just a browser comes in. There may of course be enterprise applications of such simplicity also, but we will leave that aside for now.

I guess my question is whether MS is finally beginning to acknowledge that by desperately hanging on to its cash cows, it is cutting its own throat long term. Is IE9 any evidence of such an awareness?
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@osreinstall

Even with people who do not have sensitive data won't want to trust some things to the cloud. Vacation photos, etc. in case the 'cloud' or service they use disappears at some point in the future.
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RE: Goodbye Windows, hello IE9 and the cloud
osreinstall Updated - 16th Sep 2010
@osreinstall

Economister
You will always need an OS so that cow is safe. It will run cloud apps and local apps. The office cow is iffy. Most folks run it in the corporate setting. Besides it will be doing both so the source will be the same.

Lerianis10
I don't trust the cloud and prefer to backup locally. It isn't hard for me, for all I did was make a simple batch file to only copy work over to multiple hard drives.
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"and in doing so concedes the supremacy of cloud computing."

You're acting as if you're talking about two mutually exclusive models - and frankly, I don't think they're mutually exclusive at all. I see no need to get rid of one just because the other became bit more convenient.
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Sigh... the 'cloud' is never going to be where all or even MOST of our data resides. I will be blunt here: I DO NOT TRUST CORPORATIONS TO KEEP MY PRIVATE DATA PRIVATE!

I would rather throw 100 dollar bills into SEWAGE that is LIT ON FIRE than put all my data on the cloud!

Windows is always going to be around, as is the desktop operating system. PERIOD, DONE WITH, OVER FOR ETERNITY!
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Not quite yet
timiteh 17th Sep 2010
I have never understood and will never understand this obsession for the cloud. I don't think that the cloud will completely dominate the application realm but that it will coexist with native applications.
This said i believe that the future of O.S such as Windows is to be more and more internet aware not only via browser but also via almost any place of the O.S and especially via native applications. I think that IE9 is but the beginning of such evolution.
In ideal world, Microsoft should remove the browser and enable explorer and any native application to connect seemlessly to the web and to consume web/cloud services.
Microsoft could even go further and use the concept of hubs, such as the one implemented on Windows Phone 7, in Windows to enable the users from a single place to consume services(provided by either the cloud or native apps or virtualised apps,etc...) related to a specific category.
For example a multimedia hub could enable the user to connect to Youtube or Vimeo as well as using all multimedia related applications native or cloud based from this hub. The right default configuration would have to be found for each hub but it could be quite interesting especially for Home version of Windows.
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@timiteh

"In ideal world, Microsoft should remove the browser and enable explorer and any native application to connect seemlessly to the web and to consume web/cloud services."

To do so securely would be an enormous undertaking, and I am uncertain as to how you reason it to be ideal. In fact, all I see is that it would be too confusing for users. You have two pieces of an OS designed for very different tasks - what is the reason for consolidating them into a single interface?
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RE: Goodbye Windows, hello IE9 and the cloud
daniel.pereznet 20th Sep 2010
Actually, the reverse need to be the case

Goodbye IE, Hello Windows and the cloud

Microsoft is spending to much resources developing
for different applications, such as IE, Office, Live, OfficeLive, Bing.....

Why not cut out all of this, and develop an API that categorizes functionality and with various UI. Oh wait, they have several generations of that.

It is time to boil all of this down to one API and UI that will be used across all Windows devices, whether smartphone, pc, or tablet, or cloud-enabled applications.

On another reason to sat goodbye to IE and say hello to Cloud/Windows, is that people expect to pay for Windows and for IE to be free.
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