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Who needs an IT dept anymore?

By | October 12, 2011, 6:49am PDT

Summary: Continuous iterative development on cloud platforms could force a radical restructuring of IT resources within the enterprise and new models of outsourcing.

It started out, in an airy room on the top floor of London’s Royal Festival Hall last month, as a discussion of how the cloud will shape the future of application development. It ended up casting doubt on the very existence of the IT department as a separate entity within the enterprise. Cloud, it seems, will transform IT more than most people dare imagine.

The participants at last month’s EuroCloud UK meeting were a cross-section of cloud integrators and vendors, including speakers from Bluewolf, Fujitsu and Grove Group, with contributions from members such as Digital Sabre and Salesforce.com, which hosted the fringe event at Cloudforce London. There was no one there to defend the status quo, and as so often happens at EuroCloud UK meetings, the discussion headed off in unmapped directions. That’s part of the magic of bringing practitioners together in this still emerging but rapidly growing industry. [See disclosure: I'm unpaid chair of EuroCloud UK and I've done paid consulting work for some of the vendors mentioned in this article.]

We reached our radical conclusion by starting from the simple observation that cloud development allows much more frequent interaction between developers and the business people they’re developing for. There’s no delay waiting for the technology to go live, since it’s already running in the cloud, and the development work is done in short, agile sprints. Results get delivered fast and feedback is instant. Therefore there’s no advantage in having the development work hived off into a separate IT department. Why not instead have the developers sit in the line-of-business department, where they can be better tuned-in to the day-to-day needs of their business colleagues?

Of course some elements of IT policy need to be centralized, but that governance and oversight function could be a section within some other central management department, such as finance, operations or marketing. Developers would have dotted-line reporting into that function, and could interact with other developers across the organisation using social media and other collaboration tools. But the bulk of the developer resource would be sited exactly where they need to focus their attentions, in the line-of-business operations.

A significant shift in IT skills would have to accompany this restructuring of the IT function. As infrastructure migrates off-premise into third-party clouds, enterprise IT has much less need of practitioners in what someone called the “dark code” skills of infrastructure development. Instead the expertise that’s more highly prized will be in business analysis, delivering value at the level of process automation and streamlining. There’s a need for skills transfer too, as business users and managers learn to become more capable of assessing their own automation needs and understanding how best to adapt applications to deliver them.

The meeting also discussed the impact on outsourcing, and especially offshoring, since it’s hard to be present alongside business colleagues, even virtually, if you work elsewhere in a completely different timezone. There’s a need to evolve new alternatives to the old ‘batch mode’ approach to development tasks, when work was parcelled up and shipped out to be returned at some later date. Perhaps one new model will be to take more of a ‘cloudsourcing’ approach of the type being tested by Appirio’s CloudSpokes community.

All these changes are a long way off from becoming mainstream, even if they are on the way. The meeting kicked off with Brian Doogan of cloud integrator Bluewolf explaining how the majority of enterprises have no programs in place for change management and governance after they go live with a Salesforce.com implementation, and thus have no capability to manage continuous improvement of their use of the application. Pip Witheridge, CEO of Google Apps reseller Grove Group, spoke of the unrealized potential in many enterprises to have non-developers create new business functionality on cloud platforms. Fujitsu’s Chris Byrne talked about ways of incentivising conventional development teams to increase their use of cloud platforms. This all suggested that, for now, there’s little threat to the average enterprise IT department. But the meeting’s verdict is that in five years’ time, the picture could be very different.

Next month, EuroCloud UK looks at the impact of cloud on the channel. Expect some more unmapped directions.

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Since 1998, Phil Wainewright has been a thought leader in cloud computing as a blogger, analyst and consultant.

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Phil Wainewright

Since 1998, Phil Wainewright has been a thought leader in cloud computing as a blogger, analyst and consultant. He founded pioneering website ASPnews.com, and later Loosely Coupled, which covered enterprise adoption of web services and SOA. As CEO of strategic consulting group Procullux Ventures, he has developed an evaluation framework to help ISVs and enterprises select cloud platforms, and advises US and European vendors on messaging, positioning and go-to-market. His newest role as an industry advocate is vice-president of EuroCloud.

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The cloud work I've been doing makes me agree
aopinion 12th Feb
I actually agree with this article and think the timeline is probable. With cloud extensions like Amazon's VPC the data will stay local within the company network when it needs to and when the data can be stored remotely it will be. There will be a hybrid of virtual and cloud infrastructure within a company, and I think company's will hold onto the truly strong IT resources as architects and integrators. The funny thing is that the short term affordable cost and the incredibly quick time to get the infrastructure and software working will drive companies to make more money, not cost more. When you think about it, most companies are not in the IT business, they do something / make something else IT just is a part of what they need to have to work. If they can eliminate the bottleneck of infrastructure they will gladly do it.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
William Farrell 12th Oct
Anyone who takes their business seriouslly.

a cross-section of cloud integrators and vendors tells us nobody needs an IT dept, they just need them?

I don't even know where to start on that one! happy
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@William Farrell
+1. If some executives think cloud could eliminate the need of IT, they need to be audited.
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@Rama.NET
I think the article's point is we won't need MCSE techs runninng around the offices troubleshooting computers.... yes IT will still be around, we need systems that can process 100,000 orders each day etc.... high end IT.
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The department of NO died years ago
Richard Flude Updated - 12th Oct
The MCSEs and their continual failure and missed project deadlines made the IT department the laughing stock of he company. Hiding their ignorance and inability to deliver with a certificate the rest of the organistation moved on.

They said no to the Linux, they were ignored. No to iPhone, we mocked their windows phone and blackberry alternatives. After that the MacBook and iPads could be seen everywhere.

Great days ahead.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
spdragoo@... 13th Oct
@Hasam1991

Wow, so cloud will guarantee that the desktop/terminal hardware will *never* have failures that prevent them from accessing the cloud? Didn't realize they were making those kind of promises now...
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
rparker009 12th Oct
What when their connection to the cloud dies ? Just shut down the company and let it lose millions of dollars until it is fixed ?
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@rparker009 Then you called the vendor, things will be outsourced more and more..
@rparker009

Try this one, "What happens if their cloud provider suddenly dies{1}"???? How do you keep on running????

{1} As in gets shutdown, gets it assets seized? You get the idea???
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That was my thought also.
SElizDav 13th Oct
@rparker009
What happens when the cloud goes down? If a company went total cloud with no physical storage on-site they would be in a world of hurt. How much money can a company stand to lose because they can't get access to the mission critical data and files necessary to operate on a daily basis. One only need to look at the recent Google and Microsoft 360 outages to see that it could spell disaster.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
spdragoo@... 13th Oct
@Hasam1991

Depends on the connection, though, doesn't it? Vendors can only be held responsible for *mistakes* they make when installing equipment on your premises, or for off-site services they provide you. That is, the vendor may cover the "last mile" from their switch/MUX/server to the connection box at your building...but your building owner (or more likely your employer) was responsible for getting the signal from their to your floor. If the cables go out in between floors, or a router breaks down on your floor, *that's not the cloud vendor's problem*...that's your IT department's problem.
The participants at last month???s EuroCloud UK meeting were a cross-section of cloud integrators and vendors, including speakers from Bluewolf, Fujitsu and Grove Group, with contributions from members such as Digital Sabre and Salesforce.com, which hosted the fringe event at Cloudforce London. There was no one there to defend the status quo, and as so often happens at EuroCloud UK meetings, the discussion headed off in unmapped directions. That???s part of the magic of bringing practitioners together in this still emerging but rapidly growing industry. [See disclosure: I'm unpaid chair of EuroCloud UK and I've done paid consulting work for some of the vendors mentioned in this article.]

Sigh. What's wrong with your pipe dream? First of all, there are laws that govern our world and human behavior you need to account for. If you look around us, you will see that every entity, has vital, core intelligence integrated into it. Now this core intelligence is usually enhanced by interactions with the outside world. You see this design attribute in humans, animals, plants, rocks, etc. In fact you see this design attribute everywhere! If you try to develop solutions inconsistent with the design principles of our world, they will eventually fail, and they will not be able to compete against compatible design solutions. That is how you know client computing will always be around, and that is how you know that the best IT solution for business, will always be local, private infrastructure, augmented by public cloud services.
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To quote Arnie, "I'll be back"
happyharry_z 12th Oct
The only thing that shifts is where the IT staff are and the customizations that can be done. Some might be able to pull this off, but I hope they track the costs. Historically, once this has been shifted out and there is lock-in, the cost keep going up.
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Bahahahahahah
nucrash 12th Oct
I am sorry, but considering the one cloud application that my company presently uses pretty much created the need for a full time IT position just to maintain password changes, system compatibility, and installation. Granted, this person is inept in many ways and can't figure out why in the world anyone would consider using something like appdeploy.com, but that's besides the point. Security tied into cloud apps creates more need for IT than not. In some ways, IT will be removed thinned out and in some ways retasked, but to remove IT all together would be foolish.
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First and foremost, many businesses can't go to the cloud for all their data storage. No matter what people say about security or not, groups like banks, hospitals, and other regulated industries won't be able to just dump their data in the cloud without some major regulator changes. My industry (aerospace) has regulatory concerns that won't allow us to dump our data into the cloud. I also have drawing/file management software that doesn't work with cloud data storage and won't anytime soon. We also have legacy stores/stock management software that won't work with cloud data.

Second, even if some businesses do dump their data into the cloud they won't be able to dump all of it and someone will still have to deal with power supplies crapping out, busted monitors, stupid people clicking on malware emails, and so on and so on. New employees, old employees ... as already noted, security and passwords will become even more important if you have all your data in the cloud.
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I love how this article has NO RELATION to reality whatsoever. I always get a kick out of those who have no experience writing about that which they know the least.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
kitchen-cynic 12th Oct
@richphx, I get the same kind of kick until I remember that, in the IT world, it is those with the least sense of reality who always seem to have the greatest impact!
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@richphx
lol. We should write articles about how we don't need writers anymore because we have an app on our cellphone that can generate articles for us. Ditto for doctors, mechanics and pilots.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
jsmith2113 12th Oct
There's only 1 way to find out.
To the first imbecile CEO that tries it !
... outside of the halls of government.

cloud integrators,
cloud vendors,
Bluewolf,
Fujitsu,
Grove Group,
Digital Sabre,
Salesforce.com

All of which will lie through their teeth to get your business.
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Who needs an IT department? Hospitals that need to maintain an internal client/server system and have to worry about supporting it. The "cloud" is about as secure as it's namesake, and hospitals need to be concerned with HIPAA and privacy.
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"Why not instead have the developers sit in the line-of-business department, where they can be better tuned-in to the day-to-day needs of their business colleagues?"

Once upon a time, I part of a team supporting a call-center and our cubes were integrated into the call center, for exactly the reason you mentioned. it wasn't exactly a nightmare, but it certainly wasn't conducive to application development.

We were constantly being shushed by our "colleagues" while brain-storming solutions. the constant buzzing and ringing didn't help our concentration either.

Why not, because your programmers will be less productive and everyone will be less than happy.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
malcolm@... 12th Oct
Uhmm....has anyone even mentioned that access to the cloud is via your super-slow WAN link? I think until external bandwidth can match internal LAN speeds, that people will prefer to maintain their own internal infrastructures just from the simple standpoints of:
A) I can access my data faster
B) I own my network but I don't own the cloud, hence, my access to my data in the cloud might be restricted or cut off for reasons unbeknownst to me.
c) I can trust my own data security but I can't be sure how secure my data is on someone else's network, or even who else may be accessing it.
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Shhhh!!!!
spdragoo@... 13th Oct
@malcolm@...
That's the dirty little secret they don't want you to know! Once you're tied into the cloud, you'll complain about the slow connection, then they'll let you know about this "great deal" they have for increasing your WAN bandwidth...for an additional monthly fee, of course.
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Then you have never done in house software development or have done so poorly.

Anyone who has knows that end users are extremely picky and business rules are not simple formulas that people can follow based on something they can google. Those business rules always ALWAYS require the software developer to have an intimate background on how the company operates. Sure you can hire the cloud team to do the development (who also develops for dozens of other companies) but how are they going to know the nuances of the business. And its those little details that destroys your software if you don't get them right.

What you are proposing is no different than hiring contractors which is fine. But those who hire contractors, the contractors have spent a great deal of time and effort with the company to understand the business. So unless you have dedicated cloud developers for your business it ain't going to work. And if you have dedicated cloud developers for your business....isn't that the same as an IT dept. 6 of one.

And tell me how happy would your customer be if you told them the developer working on your highly sensitive data application also maintains software for your competitor.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
carlosvillalpando Updated - 12th Oct
The cloud might not be the solution for everyone right now, but if you are a small to medium size business get out of the IT business and do what you do best, which is RUN your business not an IT shop, pay someone else to do so, you pay the electrical company,no?
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
psymth@... 12th Oct
If he mentions "cloud" one more time I'm gonig to smack him. He sounds like a Microsoft commercial. Cloud=server(s) in a Data Center. Nothing fancy about it....
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The all giving cloud...
jchapman1964@... 12th Oct
I agree there's a place for cloud based computing.... but... how... does that negate the need for the IT department? What a rubbish one-sided argument you gave, you should be ashamed of yourself. Oh! no no.. you're a journalist.... and i've fallen into your trap by responding.

Cloud will have a place, but how do people access this cloud? Huh? What do they use exactly? Cloud PCs? Virtual LAN and WAN connectivity? Aahh of course... nothing'll go wrong there.
That, to me, is the key phrase: it's all about agility. The internal IT departments have become too bureaucratic and hidebound to embrace more agile development methods. Since the internal culture cannot be changed, the customers do an end-run by moving to an outside culture more receptive to their needs.
Than the one you suggested in your article. I checked it out and it seems pretty insignificant. Its heavily Salesforce.com biased. I don't exactly see it as a sea change, and not "cross cloud" at all.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
chicagocloud 13th Oct
@GregChase Contests for developers on cloudspokes.com can be created for non-salesforce.com languages and PaaS like Google App Engine, Ruby, AWS, Java, Cloud Foundry, Mobile (iOS / Android), etc. Because of the widely adopted force.com platform, many of the contests are around SFDC (but they don't have to be).
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I think Phil needs to write articles that are not just intended to promote the philosophy of the company that he is currently working for. I stopped taking him seriously a long time ago.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
africord@... 18th Oct
Old idea. The problem begins when IT paradigms shift. Who is monitoring the architecture and its ability to deliver? How do we manage cost/performance relationships? Yes, you can outsource all of your IT infrastructure, applications, and support to the cloud. But does it always represent the best competitive advantage. If you place governance under some other function, does it begin to only serve that function? In many organizations, IT started as the underling of finance, or manufacturing, but was broken out so that it could stand along side of other staff units to serve the entire company. George Santayana was right!
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Any Exec's who believe that, There's a job for them at HP...
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
XceliantBear 27th Oct
Phil,

I think we should record this as a defining moment: the day we said that the IT department could (should) be closed. This creates an opportunity for a new kind of outsourcing business: extract and kill the IT department through cloud transformation.
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RE: Who needs an IT dept anymore?
XceliantBear 27th Oct
Profound. A moment to remember. Yes, the IT department should be closed!
I actually agree with this article and think the timeline is probable. With cloud extensions like Amazon's VPC the data will stay local within the company network when it needs to and when the data can be stored remotely it will be. There will be a hybrid of virtual and cloud infrastructure within a company, and I think company's will hold onto the truly strong IT resources as architects and integrators. The funny thing is that the short term affordable cost and the incredibly quick time to get the infrastructure and software working will drive companies to make more money, not cost more. When you think about it, most companies are not in the IT business, they do something / make something else IT just is a part of what they need to have to work. If they can eliminate the bottleneck of infrastructure they will gladly do it.

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