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5 reasons I dislike the new Windows 8 logo

By | February 18, 2012, 7:37pm PST

Summary: I don’t like the new Windows 8 logo. At all. Here are 5 reasons why.

The Windows team officially unveiled the new Windows 8 logo over the weekend, and, unfortunately, I’m just not feeling it. Now, I could just let this go and wait until it sinks in, but what fun would that be? Especially since I’ve not felt something quite this polarizing with Windows since the Longhorn reset. Here is the new logo below, followed by the 5 reasons it doesn’t sit well with me:

1 - Plain Jane: I’m all for simplicity, but I feel like this is just too simple. I understand that this is a complete revision of Windows and that Microsoft wants to showcase both a window (instead of a flag) and Metro (Windows 8’s user interface) in the logo, but all the theory and genius that undoubtedly resides behind the design of this logo has lost its translation to me in the end result.

2 - Wonky: Again, I know that this logo is the fruition of many hours of thought, design, strategy, etc., but when I look at that design above, the word that immediately comes to mind for me is “wonky.” That font style doesn’t really appeal to me, and I would really love to see some depth given to the logo, instead of just the perspective/illusion of a 3D window in 2D space. Then again, maybe I’m just trying to sound smart, who knows?

3 - Triggers my OCD: Have you ever been to someone’s house as a guest and noticed on the wall an off-center picture that you couldn’t do a single thing about? If your answer is “yes,” then you’re probably a freak-a-zoid like me when it comes to straight lines and perfectly-centered everything. And that’s the reaction that the new Windows 8 logo triggers for me — the “OMG, I HAVE TO FIX THAT CROOKED PICTURE!” response. I so desperately want to “fix” that which drives me bonkers when I look at that logo.

4 - Brand recognition: Looking at this image, I can’t help but wonder what happens when Microsoft ditches Metro. Will this logo accurately represent Windows for the next 15-20 years, or will they opt for another change in branding when the need strikes? I hate to think I’m this reactive to something as simple as the rebranding of Windows, but I just don’t see this logo standing the test of time. I liked the flag, personally, however unrelated to “Windows” it might have become over the years.

5 - Visual direction: As a UX friend of mine noted (and I completely agree with), the actual Windows window (that is to say, the new logo sans the “Windows 8″ text) guides my eyes away from “Windows 8.” So, instead of complimenting the “Windows 8″ text and feeling like it’s one big, happy family, this logo feels like there are two separate components simply residing beside one another. It just feels… off.

With that said, I hope this isn’t it. I hope that what we’re seeing is essentially a placeholder — that is, an outline of a logo that will — when finished — be filled with some kind of character and depth. I mean, when I read Pentagram’s post about the logo, as well as Microsoft’s, I feel like I must clarify that I’m speaking my opinion about this logo from the perspective of someone who isn’t a designer.

Having said that, if I have to read all the theory and design principles behind a logo to “get it,” then I’m not so sure it’s a logo I would ever like without such persuasion — and persuasion I don’t feel I should need at that. It’s no secret that I’ve always been a fan of Microsoft’s visual work with Windows, but to be honest, for my personal tastes, the bar was set far too high with Windows Longhorn. I was fine with a flag. Especially the one that never made it:

-Stephen Chapman

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The problem...is Metro, or at least MS's current implementation
Nitz_Walsh 24th Feb
That longhorn logo is striking. I have a good feeling if you showed most people that as their PC's start up screen, they would be very pleased. Hell, considering how much transparency is used in Win8/Vista, why in the heck *wasn't* this the startup animation?

The problem with the new logo is inherent to the problem of Windows 8 as it appears now, and your first sentence captures it perfectly:

"I???m all for simplicity, but I feel like this is just too simple."

This is exactly my problem with Win8's Metro implementation. White space, large fonts, lack of chrome - all those *can* be good choices in spots, but it's a balance. There will not always be interesting content to show, sometimes chrome is all you have. And when you go religiously minimalistic, you can end up crossing the threshold from "clean" to "incomplete". Metro look like that in some instance of Win8 - like it's not finished.

And of course, that's true - it isn't. But looking at the 360 dashboard and MS's websites redesigned with Metro flavour, I'm not so sure the finished product will deviate that much. What's even worse though is the the desktop - they've smashed together Metro and Aero and as a result, have given birth to one of the ugliest children on the planet. And heck, the desktop with the ribbon and it's ridiculous busy (and poorly drawn) icons is now more MORE busy than before, and as a result clashes even more heavily with Metro!

If this ends up looking similar to the final product - both the desktop and Metro - then I really don't see how the interface designers at MS can show their faces at work. It is truly hideous design from at least an aesthetic and cohesion perspective.

While we necessarily don't need "glass everywhere!" like Aero tended to do, but we do need attention paid to the small details and something resembling a unifying style. Win8 as it stands currently falls pathetically short on both counts - we'll see with the beta though, I really hope I'm shocked.
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I agree. I'm torn on it as well. At the end of the day, a logo is just a logo, but I do agree that the window is facing the wrong way. It's drawing my attention away from the "Windows 8" text.
@Cylon Centurion

"At the end of the day, a logo is just a logo, . . . . " Quote from Cylon Centurion

I agree with much of your post but I disagree with the above quoted comment. The above comment makes a great sound bite but I feel it is based on faulty paradigm. A logo is something that is identifiable with a company and/or product. It is very important to have a visually pleasing logo that potential customers like to look at multiple times a day. While there are exceptions to everything, just because some people do not find fault with that bland/nondescript/ugly logo does not mean the bland logo is a good thing.

When looking at the visually bland Windows 8 OS, I think the Windows 8 logo reflects the developer attitude in Microsoft???s development of Windows 8. Both the OS and the logo are functional but ugly. While there are many techies in the world that prize functionality over beauty, the computers of today and tomorrow are no longer aimed primarily at the techies/geeks of the world. There are far more users that are very interested in beauty with functionality rather than users that consider beauty far down on the list of important factors necessary in an OS.

While I am a ascetically impaired techie/geek, more and more I find that I have often benefited from those in the world that design beauty as well as functionality into tech. Many could argue that visual appeal may not be so very important but advertising companies have statistics that show the visual appeal of products, and of that which represents the product, to be more important that many may think.

I think that MS has made a grave error both in their OS design and in the design of the logo.
@Cylon Centurion
and not on how the logo itself looks
i don't understand the point of this article. do you provide new information in it? is it useful for someone? and most important of all, who cares if you don't like it?
@mszilard It questions the strategy undertaken by Microsoft marketing team. I guess you are underestimating the importance of logo.
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@wmac1 i don't think this is the place for subjective opinions. and liking or not liking a logo is a subjective opinion.
this is after all zdnet and we are in 2012. so i don't like affirmations like " is just too simple"
it's not about the importance of a logo. but for somebody to write an article about why he is not liking a logo on a site like this, seems to me childish
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@mszilard Uhhhhhh, have you ever read Tech Broiler or SJVN's articles or every other opinion article that gets written almost daily on the site? Never mind their Editor in Chief's opinion article about the new Windows logo. The opinions are part of why people like me read the site in the first place.
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I don't think this logo is that bad to write an article on it.

I like it so much.
Why most of the article in ZDNet are only about criticizing Windows 8?
Is this some kind of mission to brainwash people before they use it?

As you don't like logo of Windows 8. I don't like this article.
@somdutt I think Microsoft needs to fire the guys in Marketing team who suggest these radical and abnormal suggestions.

Logo is one of the most important components in Marketing of a product.
@wmac1 Would someone purchase a product just for logo. No, not at all.
As this is the only thing well known about Windows 8 and nothing better to write, people are talking about logo.
I think this logo will rock in the market.
Microsoft is seriously playing with the nerves of Windows users. From pushing metro start menu to removing the whole start menu, and also destroying the whole floating window and overlapping windows concept and now this freaky logo.

So why we had those 20 years of evolution in the design of windows and its logo? To ruin all the results of that long evolution and build a crap from start?

WinMO needed a new start but Win7 was the most popular and most successful OS ever sad sad sad
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What the logo should have been.
CPPCrispy Updated - 18th Feb
They should have taken the metro theme (a wall of boxes) and made every box in to a window. Then they should have taken "Windows 8" put it on a hill side (similar to the default desktop background of Windows XP (bliss I think its called)) and made it look like you were looking at it through those windows. So it would be like having a wall of windows in your home and looking at a large "Windows 8" sign in your back yard, though those windows. I think that that would have represented the Metro UI, the fact the OS is called Windows, and backwards compatibility (to a certain extent) though the landscape that "Windows 8" would sit on.
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It Isn't just the logo man, the whole OS is just plain ugly. I get that there are fans of the way the OS functions but, the younger generation is all about style and that is where Windows 8 falls flat on its face.
@Peter Perry Older generation does not like radical changes. They have get used to the Windows and its gradual evolution. This totally breaks the experience and freak out existing loyal users.

I still don't know how is it possible to build Photoshop in Metro!!! Or we should forget Photoshop suddenly because MS is trying to serve tablets?
@wmac1
You do know that win32 apps will still run on desktop x86/64 systems right ? I'm not taling about ARM devices but just pc's running in your and my homes. Some people are under the misjudgement that metro is all there is and traditional application are totally gone... so in short .. I don't see photoshop going touch happy (but hey more power to them if they can make a dedicated working well touch style metro app), but the traditional input/output photoshop you are talking about will STILL be there. and perfectly usuable like nothing changed at all in windows 8.
@wmac1
You can run pretty much all Windows 7 software in Windows 8. Not really sure where your coming from. Do you want an ARM touch version of PhotoShop? I'm sure they will make it.
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Remind me of Geoworks
D.T.Long Updated - 19th Feb
@Peter Perry

The new logo and the Metro interface for some reason remind me of Geoworks of decades ago - not a positive association I am afraid.
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@Peter Perry You wouldn't know style if it sat on your face and wiggled. Windows 8 oozes more style than OS X ever thought about.
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Looks fine to me. Not sure why its only ZDNet bloggers who don't like the logo and need to write articles about it.
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@Loverock Davidson- Oh, Loverock. I agree with you most of the time, but you really should read more than ZDNet if you think they are the only ones in the tech industry with negative reactions to the new logo.
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@Grammarphile72 Because he works for ZDNet and is paid to shill for Microsoft.

Haven't you figured that out yet?
Too late they can't change it.
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the thing is many expected microsoft to do something similar to iOS (which means similar to android which is just a copy of iOS) with shadows, and 3D effects in mobile and tablets too. . . but the way they innovatively came up with the simple successfull design is what annoying many android (iOS's copy) fans !
I like the new logo happy
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@Imrhien

I also like it and I seem to have had my response outlining the 5 reasons I hate the ZDNet logo censored.

Is a whistleblower censoring posts?

But it could also be the crappy posting software - I suspect it's Linux wink
Not enough colors, they should have kept the flag colors in there. Same thing Apple did to their logo in the 90s, they removed the colors and made their apple bland and uninspired and they've never been the same since then, they turned into Big Brother instead of being a cool friend.
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LOL, you guys are nuts! Keep this up and Microsoft will remove three of those trapezoid and leave us with a single pane window.

But seriously, Microsoft, you know what you're doing. Keep up the good work! I'm loving it!
It looks like an inverse of the flag of Finland. I guess they really, really like Nokia!
It seems to uphold the principles of Metro. The single secondary colour with no gradients reflects the "unashamedly digital" concept. The simple typography. I don't like or dislike it. Its just a logo, but I see where they are coming from.
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Now that Steve Jobs is dead and MS no longer can copy his style MS has decided to commit corporate suicide with Metro. This logo matches that design intent.

This design breaks with "reverse compatibility" just like the Ribbon did in Office, and now Metro does in Windows. The most obvious element they lost was the 4 colors. That simple element would have kept continuity with the brand design they have established over the last 30 years. But no, they had to be "smart".

The link to the blog is great. The comments on the blog had me ROTFLMAO. They were so consistently negative and showed insight into the logo "design" that the designers and MS (mis)"management" totally missed. There are many better alternatives provided by amatures than what the are stuck with. Things that took all of 5 minutes to "design". Sad.

MS should fire the manager that accepted this logo (all the way to the top), and sick it's lawyers on the design company for "malpractice".

Heck, even the Windows 1 logo is better ... come to think of it, Windows 1 was better than Metro, and Win1 sucked! I had a DOS memory manager that did "windows" MUCH better than Windows 1 did.
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If it had the same color as the flag I be a little more incline to like it. I don't think Microsoft should kill the flag. When people see it they know it from Microsoft. It is iconic like the Geico gecko or Alfac duck you don't mess with a symbol that is well known and famous.
I don't think people care about the logo. What needs to work is how they will integrate the mobile component of windows into the main os. They have all the pieces i.e hotmail, skydrive, windows, office, and the mobile os but how are they going to integrate and bring this all under one organized and fluid banner? Individually, they are good pieces of software with some flaws but if they could assimilate and organize, it would be a really good package for the end user.
Anybody could have made this with paint in about 5 minutes. Are they now showcasing paint?
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This is a easy one
adholt 20th Feb
You don't like Windows or Microsoft at all plain and simple so disliking the Logo should be expected. ALL YOU BIAS ARE BELONG TO US!
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Windows 8 redesign logo
mattkostan 21st Feb
Here's a 99designs contest crowd sourcing the windows 8 logo. It has about 100 entries (you can post yours too!) http://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/redesign-microsoft-windows-logo-fun-guaranteed-contest-archon-122050
That longhorn logo is striking. I have a good feeling if you showed most people that as their PC's start up screen, they would be very pleased. Hell, considering how much transparency is used in Win8/Vista, why in the heck *wasn't* this the startup animation?

The problem with the new logo is inherent to the problem of Windows 8 as it appears now, and your first sentence captures it perfectly:

"I???m all for simplicity, but I feel like this is just too simple."

This is exactly my problem with Win8's Metro implementation. White space, large fonts, lack of chrome - all those *can* be good choices in spots, but it's a balance. There will not always be interesting content to show, sometimes chrome is all you have. And when you go religiously minimalistic, you can end up crossing the threshold from "clean" to "incomplete". Metro look like that in some instance of Win8 - like it's not finished.

And of course, that's true - it isn't. But looking at the 360 dashboard and MS's websites redesigned with Metro flavour, I'm not so sure the finished product will deviate that much. What's even worse though is the the desktop - they've smashed together Metro and Aero and as a result, have given birth to one of the ugliest children on the planet. And heck, the desktop with the ribbon and it's ridiculous busy (and poorly drawn) icons is now more MORE busy than before, and as a result clashes even more heavily with Metro!

If this ends up looking similar to the final product - both the desktop and Metro - then I really don't see how the interface designers at MS can show their faces at work. It is truly hideous design from at least an aesthetic and cohesion perspective.

While we necessarily don't need "glass everywhere!" like Aero tended to do, but we do need attention paid to the small details and something resembling a unifying style. Win8 as it stands currently falls pathetically short on both counts - we'll see with the beta though, I really hope I'm shocked.

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