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Why I run an open Wi-Fi network

By | January 11, 2008, 7:58am PST

Security expert Bruce Schneier wrote a column yesterday titled Steal This Wi-Fi explaining why he runs an open wireless network at home:

To me, it’s basic politeness. Providing internet access to guests is kind of like providing heat and electricity, or a hot cup of tea. But to some observers, it’s both wrong and dangerous.

I’m told that uninvited strangers may sit in their cars in front of my house, and use my network to send spam, eavesdrop on my passwords, and upload and download everything from pirated movies to child pornography. As a result, I risk all sorts of bad things happening to me, from seeing my IP address blacklisted to having the police crash through my door.

Schneier concedes that, technically, these sort of calamities are possible, but he discounts the likelihood. I, too, run an open wireless network, but my reasons for sharing the bandwidth are a little different.

I have a Wi-Fi network in my Manhattan apartment. I pay $45 a month for a broadband cable connection, and this network is encrypted. I live in a 19-story apartment building and the chance that too many people would usurp my bandwidth (and thereby diminish my user experience) is too great.

I have another wireless network at a weekend home in Woodstock, NY. I pay the same cable company $45 each month for broadband service. Since I can’t be in both places at the same time, why should I have to pay for wireless access two times? I explained this to the cable company, and asked to get a discount for multiple accounts (I pay for cable TV in both locations, too). The answer? Absolutely not. So I figured I’d share the bandwidth.

In Manhattan, I’ve shared the password to my wireless network a neighbor down the hall who has two kids but doesn’t have cable TV. (There’s something about this that I think warrants a reward.) In Woodstock, I have an open network that I share with my neighbors some 200 feet away. I have been doing this for more than a year in both locations, without a glitch.

I know this setup wouldn’t work for everyone, particularly if others using your network are heavy consumers of bandwidth. No offense to my neighbors, but I don’t think any of them could identify BitTorrent if it bit them. They’re just browsing the Web and checking e-mail.

I have never publicly admitted that I share my bandwidth, though, because I knew those who doggedly protect their networks would heap criticism on me for being irresponsible (or stupid). But I’m just not the paranoid type; never have been. So until my cable company finds a way to fairly charge users with multiple accounts (or sends me a cease-and-desist letter), I’ll continue to share my bandwidth. I figure it’s their problem to solve, not mine.

What do you think? Is sharing your network risky or a reward to others?

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Now, climb down off your horse ...
RealPauper 23rd Sep 2009
"Now, climb down off your horse before you fall and hurt yourself."
He wouldn't hurt himself if he landed on his head ...
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I share the bandwidth, too
Eliakim48 11th Jan 2008
I have gone on trips where I've used someone's home wifi for a quick e-mail or
checking something (like the location of a business or whatever), when I haven't
been able to find a business giving an open WiFi Hotspot. They are not around in a
lot of small towns, when one goes on trips. So, just cruising down the highway and
wardriving (sorta) gives you all sorts of access points.

I also have a couple of HotSpot accounts, but even so, it's very uneven coverage. It's
mostly in major metropolitan areas. You get outside of about 25 major metro areas
and then your choices narrow down, and then to nothing, outside of the top 100
cities. But, there are always neighborhood wifi hotspots around. There's no problem
there.

So, I leave mine on all the time and it broadcast "open" to anyone who wants to tap
in. I'm not too far from a major interstate and one block from a major city street, so
I'm not isolated so that people can't find it. But, even so, I really don't have a lot of
people taking advantage of it. I just "give it back" to the wifi community "at large"
for the times that I've used it out on trips.
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While you're at it, encourage your friends to shoplift in stores that
charge too much. Just get up and leave the check in expensive restaurants.

Cheat on cable TV. You can only watch one channel at a time.

That ull teach 'em (to raise the price for everybody).
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Feeding the trolls, feeding the trolls
Sxooter_z 14th Jan 2008
We will go a posting, feeding the trolls.....

But seriously, this isn't the same at all. It's like you went to a restaurant and ordered your food, and there was plenty left over, and you shared it with the folks at the table next to you.
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Almost, not quite
techr@... 14th Jan 2008
This would be more like ordering the buffet and sharing it with others.
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Disagree
fr0thy 14th Jan 2008
It's like only being able to order 3 large plates, and as the message you replied to says, sharing the leftovers.
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Shoplift
amosf64@... 14th Jan 2008
What a stupid comment, there is absolutely no comparison between sharing bandwidth and leaving a restaurant without paying. The bandwidth IS paid for so it is more like shopping for food and inviting your neighbours over for a bbq ( if you have to campair it to food that is) you CANT steal what you have already paid for and if you want to share that's a personal choice
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Almost the same but Totally Different
justinlbond@... 14th Jan 2008
Ok. Mr. "What a stupid comment" it may be like a BBQ that was paid for with food stamps. Someone is going to pay for it. The more bandwidth you use the more your local carrier has to pay the regional and national carriers.

I wonder if 'kindness' can be a bad thing!?!? At what point in our history did we decide that it was ok or 'kind' to take from one group of people and give to another?
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Jbond
ZenaPrincess 14th Jan 2008
I'm SURE no one would EVER accuse you of being 'KIND'. What a legalistic jerk.
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RE: Jbond
fatman65535 14th Jan 2008
Zena, I am fairly sure that "JBond" is one of those zero tolerance idiots that I have encountered. I also think that 'zero' may describe some of his other qualities.
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ThX ye
ZenaPrincess 11th Feb 2008
LOL! He prolly works for one of the rip-off companies like at&t. Wasn't it them who paid off the politicians to vote down the bill for free bandwith and also to squash legislation to prevent them from ONCE AGAIN becoming a giant monopoly once again? It's ok for the companies to rip off their 'consumers', but GOD forbid that a customers would want a equal value for their money!! We need some people to go to work for these people and 'out' them for their fraudelent practices. We used to have Journalists who did that....and for people like that, I know an old saying that fits it well, Those that have no mercy shall receive no mercy. Have a great week.
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Mega-capitalist wannabe jerk
fr0thy 14th Jan 2008
:P
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On kindness, and giving
handydan918 14th Jan 2008
I wonder if 'kindness' can be a bad thing!?!? At what point in our history did we decide that it was ok or 'kind' to take from one group of people and give to another?
Somewhere around the Presidency of Roosevelt, with his "New Deal". What a disaster....
I believe it was de Tocqueville who said "A democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it."
Over 50% of your tax dollars are 'transfer' payments. You earn it, and it is given to someone who did not.
The real problem is not illegal immigration, the real problem is that we have adopted a semi-socialist/semi-capitalist government/economy, and no one even knows it.
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And it's a pity it isn't a a lot more Socialist.
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Food stamps? Get serious!
Dr. John 15th Jan 2008
Food stamps? Really! Food stamps. An item sucked from the government teet somehow, in your twisted logic, equates to monies earned by sweat of brow? Yes, someone is going to pay for it, the person who paid the provider for the broadband service. The broadband service provider sold him X number of bits per second of bandwidth. It belongs to him. It doesn't belong to anyone else. He may do with it what he pleases. It's his property. If he wanted to connect to a usenet server, 24/7, using every bit of his available bandwidth in an attempt to suck the server dry, what would you then have to complain about? He paid for it. It's his to use. If he had a household with eight children, each with their own computers, and the household used every bit available to them, what would you then have to complain about? This is no different.

And, he's not Robin Hood. He's not taking from someone and giving to others. He's sharing what is already rightfully his. If family comes to visit and parks their RV in the yard, he can run a hose and power line out to the RV, sharing the water and electricity he's paying for with them. It's his. He can do with it what he wants. If he chooses to put a cold water drinking fountain by the road, at the edge of his property, allowing the public to stop for a sip of cold water as they walk by, that's his right. It's his, he paid for it, he can do with it what he pleases. This is absolutely no different.

Now, climb down off your horse before you fall and hurt yourself.
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I almost agree with you except...
paPOSman 16th Jan 2008
Water and electricity service is not a good comparison to internet service. With water and electricty, you pay to get the service connected and then in most places, you pay for whay you use. With an ISP, you pay to get it connected and then pay a monthly fee for that service.
Unless there is a drought or heat wave, your utility provider will not limit your usage, the more you use, the more money they make. Unlike an ISP where you are paying for access to the internet, they don't make any more money whether your connection is being used all day long or if it is only used for 1 hour a day to check e-mail.
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Doesn't that...
SoFaRo 9th Mar 2008
...just further prove the last person's point?
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Now, climb down off your horse ...
RealPauper 23rd Sep 2009
"Now, climb down off your horse before you fall and hurt yourself."
He wouldn't hurt himself if he landed on his head ...
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I guess I'm paying for it,
zachschi@... 16th Jan 2008
Doing an internet speed test I have only ever maxed out at 4Mbps however I am paying for 5. So I guess I'm paying for it and I'm ok with them sharing my loss of bandwidth.
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"At what point," you ask?
SoFaRo 9th Mar 2008
At what point in our history did we decide that it was ok or 'kind' to take from one group of people and give to another?

I think it was about the time that some guy calling himself "Jesus" came along. What a heartless bastard that guy was!

You and your ilk, jbond, are a disgrace to all mankind.
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You can't steal what you already own
Cerebrawl 7th Feb 2008
You pay for bandwidth it's yours. You can do whatever you want with it, except perhaps download illegal material.
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But you can...
cornpie 10th Feb 2008
...violate your terms of service agreement - which gives the cable company every right to cut you off.
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alan@... Updated - 15th Jan 2008
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how?
merc2dogs` 14th Jan 2008
What mentality equates sharing a service you've PAID for with shoplifting?

do you work for comcast? The only people that I've seen who have sworn that sharing YOUR connection equates to 'theft' is people who want to SELL the service.

Comcast for example told my wife that since we had TWO computers, we would NEED to have TWO accounts with a seperate modem and service for each account, who's attempting to rip who off, and what I wonder is how many ignorant people has that worked on?

I buy a car with four seats, since I only have one butt, Am I ripping anyone off by giving other people a ride?

I pay for the service, if I want to run a line to the neighbors, or give them access to my wireless, or just open it up and let every citizen around use it I have that right and I'm not stealing anything from anyone.

If I hack into a service, or climb up a pole and make a hookup, then I'm stealing, but if I pay for a service that sits unused for 18 hours a day, I am in my right to allow others free use of it as I see fit. no theft involved, that little BILL that comes each month means it's a paid for service.

Ken
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Something to Think About
hforman@... 14th Jan 2008
True, you are the one paying for the service and you are sharing something you paid for. Let's say you personally use it only 6 hours per day. The cable company or Internet provider sold it to you assuming that you will only use it 6 hours per day and that 63.78% of your neibors will also pay for the same service. Legally, yes, you have 24-hour a day use of it. Legally, your neihbors have 24-hour per day use of theirs. However, if everyone used theirs 24-hours a day, the provider whould have to raise the rates because they would need to add more bandwidth. The "buffet" principle was actually close. Suppose you order the buffet at a restaurant, two others at your table order regular meals and one person doesn't order anything. You get up and fill a plate with food from the buffet. It is YOUR food. It is your right to eat all of it or eat some of it and throw away the rest. Being YOUR food, do you have a right to give it to others at your table? No?

I think as someone else said, first of all, you may be inviting "strangers" into your network who are after MORE than just free email checking. Other than giving them a wep key, you leave yourself open. But, what happens when your neibors are downloading or watching movies and you can't even get on to check your email? Someone else here reported that.

So, the dowsides are:

1) Unless protected, someone can hack in and cause financial harm, depending on how open you really are.

2) The bandwidth may not be there when YOU need it.

3) If the local cable company can't adjust bandwith and has to add more and not get anything from your neighbors, YOUR rates will go up.

Now, if my neighbor asked me for a favor, I might let him if he keeps it reasonable and lets me drive his Porsche and his Mercedes.
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Another bad comparison
daengbo 15th Jan 2008
1) Cable and DSL companies routinely oversell bandwidth. They do, however, contractually offer a certain speed and cap (no guaranteed level of service, however).
2) Another major industry routinely oversells its product -- the airline industry. If you show up for a flight and too many people are there, you may be out of luck.

The major difference is that the airline industry isn't allowed to just say "That's too bad," take your ticket and tell you to buy another one for the next day. They generally have to provide a hotel for you. They do everything they can to keep you from being pissed off.

Why are these two so different? It's because you always have the choice to badmouth the airline and go to another one. Most people don't have that kind of choice in the broadband sector.
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Mr Microsoft mentality
fr0thy 14th Jan 2008
It's mine, all mine. Muhahahahahah!!!!!!!
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Your wrong!!!!!
bsa3006@... 14th Jan 2008
Shoplifting would be the equivalent of making a connection that someone was not already paying for. If you payed for a radio at a store, your neighbor would not steal one for himself but he could carry your's out for you and listen while doing it. If you are at a restaurant and pay for your meal (not talking about a buffet here) you can give anyone your food. Some or all of it. You only have so much food to give and you have paid for it. The same as your broadband connection. You don't pay for how many computers you have ( like leaving without paying the check for an extra meal) or the amount of data you pass (a buffet), only the maximum bandwith you can use so why not let some one else have some. I also don't think you realize that if everyone who has broadband were to get on line at once, the web would come to a crawl. IPS can't even supply what they say your paying for. Just like telco's. They can only supply dial tones to about 20% of the lines they serve, but they still want to charge you more for less.
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Actually
hforman@... 14th Jan 2008
I don't know about your account, but you might want to check your agreement with your provider. Technically, most of us are ONLY allowed ONE computer. It is right in the service agreement. Just ONE. Now, we can have more than one if we sign up for the Home Network option. Of course, the cable company really isn't going to know what you are doing or maybe they will but it will cost them too much money to put a stop to it. Now, if you are giving away your bandwidth in a 19-story building or selling it, they may have a few objections. Maybe this will come sometime in the future. Sorry, but the technicality of this is they DO limit you to one PC in most cases. AT least with cable. As an "early adopter" I was told of that several times. What we do when the cable guy installer leaves is another thing.
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taskman 18th Jan 2008
Here in the UK, most major broadband sellers openly encourage you to set up home networks, using several computers. In fact, several ISP's even include wireless routers as part of the package.

But then there is so much choice in ISP's here, they have to be competitive to survive (though the bigger companies tend to offer the worst service!).
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If you pay, it is yours
srday 14th Jan 2008
Your suggestion that using what you've paid for, in whatever way you see fit, is palaver at best, and extremely uninformed and dangerous at worst. If I buy something, I can share it if I want to. To suggest otherwise is baloney. Next will you assert that no one else but yourself should be able to listen to a CD you bought? I suggest that you don't allow yourself to be a corporate tool.
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I disagree
eryk81 7th Feb 2008
The cable company that I lees my Internet bandwidth from has no say in what I do with it. It?s like GM calling you because you rented your car out to your friend. Now if I sold my wifi connection to others for profit then the cable company might have something to say.

To this post: I?m in the info security business and just for my self; I don?t care what others might use my network for, I just want to know who and when. Something you can?t do if you network is wide open to everyone. One other thing, what if you want them to stop.
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The point is....
brownbagmusic@... 14th Jan 2008
The point is the intent. All sorts of analogies can be employed to justify the benign "sharing" of the wifi bandwidth, but read the user agreement. The isp INTENDS for the service to be used by the customer and his household. Now I know quoting chapter and verse may not mean much to some of you, but the conventional wisdom is this...if you are unhappy with the user agreement, don't sign it, because it is binding. This is not a restaurant or a buffet. The closer analogy is with software. If you are enjoined from sharing software with your neighbor, (as most software user agreements states), then you don't, because you AGREED to refrain from that behavior when you purchased and activated the software. The point is: what's your word worth?
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It'll all just moving money around
fr0thy 14th Jan 2008
and as far as the companies which make up your "choices" are concerned, as much as possible in their direction.

Sure they want to sell bandwidth to every single household.

If people want to club together to share bandwidth then personally I think that's great. After all, if everybody signed up seperately and tried to use their supposed bandwidth quota, they wouldn't actually get those speeds, but that'd be ok would it?
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In a kinder-gentler era...
Knorthern Knight 11th Jan 2008
...this was exactly the same reasoning applied to open email relays. Then @**hole spammers abused it, and open email relays were deprecated. The same thing will happen here. Criminals will abuse open wifi for stuff they wouldn't dare do from home. See http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7514 If nothing else, you risk being charged as an accessory for any criminal acts committed using your open connection.
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Interesting, but consider...
burkhartmic 14th Jan 2008
Schneier's article. Schneier states clearly that it's easier to claim innocence when your WiFi is wide open than if it's encrypted and subsequently hacked.

The SecurityFocus article only talks about the "WiFi Whacker" (one of the comments on that article), but doesn't breathe one word about the WiFi signal he was accessing.
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... with the broadband provider you may be liable for additionl charges above and beyond your current residential fees. That is if you get caught Of course posting that you are doing so in a public forum is an excellent way to get caught!
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cable company
RikFairlie 12th Jan 2008
Hi:
Yes, I know that posting that column would be an easy way to get caught. I'm kind of curious to see if the cable company does anything.
Rik
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I WAIT IN TERROR!
ifooh 25th Jan 2008
Every time I read the FBI warning on a pirated DVD.
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Contributr
Sharing here, too
mrdatahs 11th Jan 2008
I'm fairly rural now, so my closest neighbors can get my signal on days when the weather is right. However, I'm moving to a historic common area in another rural town where the only broadband is ridiculously expensive satellite. I'll definitely be sharing there since I need a high speed connection and lots of other folks could certainly use it. No sense in everyone getting screwed since the telcos and cable companies refuse to serve this little town.

Chris Dawson
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RE: Why I run an open Wi-Fi network
veggiedude 11th Jan 2008
I might open up my main network. Every person who
visits me, they run Windows PC and I have to have a
separate 802.11g network for them. I, myself, use
802.11n and it has become apparent to me that not
many Windows folks use it. So I might open that network
knowing that most folks who run Windows can't get
access to it.
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Cable company
RikFairlie 12th Jan 2008
Hi:
Yes, I know that posting that column would be an easy way to get caught. I'm kind of curious to see if the cable company does anything.
Rik
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Sharing
jeffharris 12th Jan 2008
When I had DSL, then cable in a Brooklyn brownstone. I ran a cable to my upstairs
neighbor's apartment for them to share. Hey, why not?

I moved to Manhattan, went wireless and left my network open for several years. At
one point, my connection was constantly going down. Almost daily I was restarting
my cable modem and router. It got more frequent and much more annoying.

I read an item at macfixit.com that mentioned Windows machines could inadvertently kill wireless connections. I decided to try WPA2 security on my network
to see if it helped. Sure enough, the broken connection problems disappeared
immediately.

I felt kind of bad, because of the dozen or so available networks I can "see", about
1/3 are open. And I liked the fact that I was sharing bandwidth. But when my own
connection suffered... no way, I PAY for it.
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RE: Why I run an open Wi-Fi network
jdknco@... 14th Jan 2008
It makes sense to me, but if you have a 'regular' user, why not set up an encrypted/trusted link directly with them so you aren't exposed beyond that?
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RE: Why I run an open Wi-Fi network
Shaner_03@... 14th Jan 2008
I pay insurance on two vehicles, although I can only drive one at a time. Should I leave the keys in my other vehicle and let my neighbor's borrow it at will just to stick it to the insurance company?
Maybe your neighbors aren't compuer savvy, but I bet some of their friends are. By knowingly operating an open network, you assume the responsibility for what others do on it. You may also want to read the fine print on the contract with your cable company. Good Luck.
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Sanity - at last!
macbill 14th Jan 2008
I'm glad to see that at least one person out there has some common sense (Shaner_03 - way to go!) I've read a lot about "being nice", "sticking it to the cable company", "risk of sharing", and so on, but precious little about the basic fact that it's just as illegal as buying a newspaper at a newsstand and helping yourself to another copy to give away. You pay for cable (or satellite, or whatever) for a reason: it's a service/product you want, and it costs money to deliver it to you. Every person out there - and I mean EVERY person - who steals cable adds to the increase on my cable bill. I'm not happy to hear that there's some jerk bragging about "stealing from the rich (company) to give to the poor (neighbor)"; I'm even less happy to see it published in a public forum such as this. Instead of patting yourself on your criminal back, you should be hiding in a dark corner somewhere - preferably on another planet where they don't have cable or wi-fi. And NO, before you jump to any conclusions - I don't work for any provider of any communication service. I just don't like self-righteous a-holes raising my costs of living. So - finish the title of this piece: "Why I run an open Wi-Fi network - BECAUSE I'M A JERK AND A THIEF" - be honest.
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I agree with your part of your last line
mluther223@... 14th Jan 2008
"Why I run an open Wi-Fi network - BECAUSE I'M A JERK AND A THIEF" - be honest. Well....you are a jerk. I have run an open wifi for years, and until they change New York laws, it is completely legal. There are several states that require you to place security on you wifi, but NY isn't one of them. If I choose to open up my network (and potentially my entire computer) to the public, that is my business... I hate it when self righteous idiots, like yourself, try to make an issue out of nothing. Saying that stealing a paper is the same as having an open wifi is just plain stupid. So before accusing me of being a thief, educate yourself on the legal issues...moron
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It's just as illegal as
fr0thy 14th Jan 2008
buying a newspaper from a stand and allowing somebody to read the back page while you read the middle.

Selfish jerks like you live in a pathetic me me me little existence.

When your neighbour ends up on the streets because he could no longer afford his mortgage you'd be happily serving caviar and champagne at a party by your heated indoor pool telling all of the guests what a loser he must have been?
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What is the use of the other network
rod pieper 14th Jan 2008
Run a web server and / or email server on one of the sites - let torrent run while you are at the other location. Do you shut off the water, electric, gas when you leave one place? There are no easy and quick analogies here.

Buy a single newspaper -- then let someone else have it when you are done with it. Buy a book, loan it out (or sell it as a used book).

There are constant issues between providers and users of services. Pricing is based on the provider considering their costs, dividing those costs amongst the various users, keeping a price level that user's don't abandon in favor of someone else and hopefully make some profit.

My son is single and pays for Internet connection for himself -- I have 5 computers at home and 3 - 4 users and pay about the same price. What is fair?

Then go and look at Sat. Internet Fair and Acceptable use policies. Shall we have a meter to price based on the number of bytes you have passed this month?
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comparison with utilities
RikFairlie 15th Jan 2008
Hi:
Here are some answers to your questions about my utilities: For water, I have a well; no charge (except for the pump, which works only when I am here and using it). For electricity, most of the cost is based on use. If I'm not here, I'm not charged for it. For gas, if I'm not here and not using gas, I'm not charged for it. (OK, in the winter I do have to use some heating oil to heat the house to a minimum level so that the pipes don't freeze.)
But I think those comparisons support my question of why I should have to pay twice for Internet access. I don't do so for water, electricity and (mostly) gas. It seems to me that we have move away from the Internet as a tool for enthusiasts to the Internet as a utility for everyone.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Rik
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Sharing....
MGP2 16th Jan 2008
So, if I'm not reading my newspaper, does that mean my neighbor can't come over and read it when I'm done? As for cable, is it stealing if my kids bring their friends over to watch a show on a premium channel?

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