Adobe, Apple and Microsoft all talking about rich Internet applications on mobile devices

Adobe, Apple and Microsoft all talking about rich Internet applications on mobile devices

Summary: I’ve spent quite a bit of time talking about Flash on the iPhone and first and foremost it’s because I love my iPhone and I don’t think that the web experience is complete without Flash.

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I’ve spent quite a bit of time talking about Flash on the iPhone and first and foremost it’s because I love my iPhone and I don’t think that the web experience is complete without Flash. Today Steve Jobs was quoted in the Apple shareholder meeting as saying:

The full-blown PC Flash version "performs too slow to be useful" on the iPhone, and a mobile version called Flash Lite "is not capable of being used with the Web,"

I obviously can’t speak to performance issues on the iPhone for the desktop version of the Flash Player version but Flash Lite has a long history of enhancing the web with Flash content on mobile devices. In fact, some of the slickest devices on the market like the Nokia N95 and Sony Mylo are shipping with Flash Lite. We’ve got a lot of partners, 450 Million flash enabled devices out there and we’re looking at 1 Billion devices with Flash by the 2010. Consumers and device manufacturers want to capture the rich Internet application wave on mobile devices and when you look at the numbers, 450 million people can't be wrong. That's strong demand for a better web experience no matter how you slice it. I’d even go as far as to say that the web experience isn’t complete on the iPhone until some kind of Flash support is added. This commercial is a great example of that.

The last couple of days have been interesting for Adobe and rich Internet applications in the mobile space. First we hear Microsoft is working with Nokia to put Silverlight on one of their phones Nokia is also partner for Adobe in mobile and has Flash Lite pre-installed on more than 70 handsets including all S60 devices. Now this from Apple. Over the next few months be on the look out for more interesting developments in this space......not least from Adobe.

Topics: Nokia, Apple, Browser, Enterprise Software, iPhone, Microsoft, Mobility

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  • Flash and Java Lite?

    I think we need both. Thanks for the link to YouTube!! Great video.
    Arm A. Geddon
  • RE: Adobe, Apple and Microsoft all talking about rich Internet applications

    I could understand what Steve concerned, when user surf the web site with Flash object from safari, i.e. an application built with Flex, iphone might out of resources and maybe blow out whole device into trouble.

    I guess Apple or Adobe have to make another version of Flash player with restrict resource control.

    Also this kind of Flash 9 applications(Flex) cannot be run with Flash lite for sure.
    George_ca
    • Flash is already in a sandbox

      The Flash player already has what you are describing built in. It cannot take all a systems resources.
      Tulrin
  • The old question remains unanswered:

    Just what is Apple's RIA strategy?

    As an aside, I wonder if Apple and Microsoft are talking about Silverlight for the iPhone?
    TheTruthisOutThere@...
  • RE: Adobe, Apple and Microsoft all talking about rich Internet applications

    I would like to hear Apple's opinion for the FP if Google
    hadn't converted their youtube videos just for the iPhone. Is
    Apple preparing something new? Could this "new" thing fight
    Flash Player? Jesus Criste!
    If in 300 million devices Flash Player operates nice, is iPhone
    the worst device of all these "others"? Dear Apple..YOU ARE
    LOSING IT!
    savvasmalamas
  • RE: Adobe, Apple and Microsoft all talking about rich Internet applications on mobile devices

    Video on iPhone is equal to Vista on PC. Do you need it?
    TV means movies, Phone means talk
    So please don?t talk rich services for few years until we have some innovation in battery life.

    Saran
    saran945@...
  • No Flash, no iPhone

    I can wait. Most commercial websites require Flash in one way or another. I'll wait until Apple gets it right before I get iStuck with a beta phone.
    chall@...
  • Adobe = crappy performance on everything not Windows

    Not only the iPhone would gain from more competent
    development at Adobe, Macs too. Adobe development is for
    Windows first, everything else is an afterthought. :(
    Mikael_z
    • And who's fault is that?

      After years of developing for the Mac I can speak with some authority on this subject, Apple is the absolute worst company to deal with as a developer... hands down.

      Combine that with the reality that the vast majority of Adobe's sales are for PCs and it only makes sense to do your primary development for the PC platform and Mac as secondary...

      I am sure I will be flamed by every scary raving Mac-cultist for writing this...
      Tulrin
  • Steve Jobs Quote Misunderstood Out Of Context

    Having attended the Apple shareholder meeting, I am
    amazed at how the online media has blown Steve Jobs'
    comments about Flash way out of proportion. I took Steve's
    remarks to be encouraging that Flash Player is eventually
    coming to the iPhone, or a future hardware revision.

    He was responding to a shareholder who asked why Flash
    isn't on the iPhone. Steve explained that the full Flash
    Player is needed to deliver the full desktop Flash
    experience, something he went on to explain is not
    possible with Flash Lite, which is found on other phones.

    He almost implied that Apple is working with Adobe on an
    "embedded" version of Flash Player designed to run on
    mobile devices like the iPhone and iPod touch. My take is
    that Apple will put a form of Flash Player on the iPhone as
    soon as it's technically feasible.
    Nakamoto
  • RE: Adobe, Apple and Microsoft all talking about rich Internet applications

    BTW Apples new QT upgrade 7.4.1 is a disaster for many??? it does not allow the playing of Flash movies on any browser on a Mac, not sure of Windows??? these Flash movies drive most news videos at yahoo, BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc etc. Many users (10.4.x) had to do a system reinstall after the upgrade cause you can???t downgrade???
    kkrimmer@...