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Beware the iOS 5 update

By | October 18, 2011, 8:11am PDT

Summary: Apple software updates are usually painless - except when they aren’t. And my iOS 5 updates have been more painful than most. Learn from my grief.

I upgraded my iPhone 3GS Sunday. Download went fine but got the

An error occurred while backing up this iPhone (-5000).

message during the update process. Checking the web I tried the stuff that worked for other people, but no joy.

Having recently synced my iPhone to iTunes, I thought “what’s the worst that could happen?” I was about to find out.

Clicked on the “install anyway” button. After the iOS 5 installation completed I brought up iTunes and found my next problem: there were no backups listed for my phone.

None. Bad iTunes! The update process must have wiped them.

Backup to the semi-rescue!
I run several backups, including a nightly system drive clone, which has often proved useful. So I booted off the clone, brought up iTunes, and found several syncs available for the iPhone.

But the most recent was 1 month old. Oh well! I sync’d it to my iPhone and it worked.

Better to lose a month’s worth of texts and a couple of new addresses than all of it.

iPad 2 update
After than I figured my iPad 2 update would be a breeze. I figured wrong.

Got the same error, the same fixes didn’t work, and I got the same result: all iPad 2 data wiped. But not a big deal, since I don’t keep any originals on the iPad.

All the apps showed up after the sync. Had to set up folders again, games lost their high scores and settings, and reloaded movies. Annoying hassle, but not fatal to my digital self.

The Storage Bits take
According to reports most people aren’t having any iOS 5 update problems. But you and I aren’t most people. Prepare for the worst.

If you care about data on your iOS device, make sure you have a) a recent iTunes sync, and b) it is backed up. The easiest way to do this on a Mac - the brute force method - is to clone your system drive using an external drive and either Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper. CCC is shareware and SD’s free version works fine. If you don’t clone at least weekly, you should.

Windows doesn’t make it easy to clone the system drive, but check around, there are tools. It is possible to save just the iTunes sync data, but restoring it can be tricky.

Bottom line: I rarely have problems with Apple dot releases, but major releases can be a beast. Back up often!

Comments welcome, of course. How did your iOS 5 upgrades go?

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RE: Beware the iOS 5 update
Lonerodp 29th Nov
Please do nor update to this new os. It just SUCKS. The safari multi tab is the worst when you go from one tab to other it has to load the page all over again. The key board is slow as hell. Overall very disspointed . Never knew that apple could do such a screwed up job of not testing before releasing the new os. I use iPad 1.
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jmiller1978 18th Oct
All 3 of mine (2 i4's and 1 iPad) went smooth as silk.
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Hasam1991 18th Oct
@jmiller1978
Same here 2 iphone 4's and 1 iPad, very smooth and fast. Love WiFi sync and iCloud back ups, very happy Apple user, former Android customer who could not get an update from Tmo... that was the end for me.
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jmiller1978 18th Oct
@Hasam1991

I like the WiFi sync for light syncing but if you're swapping out movies on you're iPad, it seems too slow. Still prefer USB for the heavy stuff
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bitcrazed 18th Oct
@jmiller1978 - my 2nd-gen iPad was upgraded, but has no apps so I have to manually reinstall them all ... one ... after ... another.

$hitty experience Apple.
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RE: Beware the iOS 5 update
jmiller1978 Updated - 18th Oct
@bitcrazed

Did you do it from the computer from where you normally sync your Apps? If not, that's why. Before it installs, it specifically says everything is deleted and will need to be restored.

So that everyone is aware, iOS backups do NOT contain the Apps, just your data and settings for the Apps. So make sure to sync your Apps people!!!
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tramps 18th Oct
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I'll answer your question
toddybottom 18th Oct
"How did your iOS 5 upgrades go?"

I don't know a single person who had a smooth iOS 5 upgrade. My 2 iDevices eventually upgraded but I had to restore both of them as new devices and then manually install everything.

Getting onto iOS 5 was a horrible experience for me and everyone I know. In the end though, iOS 5 is the best smartphone and tablet OS in the world by far. There is no competition in these markets since all the alternatives suck so much. It is a sick market. We all lose.
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OhTheHumanity 18th Oct
@toddybottom
Not sick over here. My Mango update went smooth as pie and the phone is rocking. You may want to say others are sick to make up for the hassles of updating, but its not so, my HTC Trophy Windows Phone is awesome and does everything I need quickly and painlessly. Makes Apple and Android look like 90's era stuff except for maybe the Siri feature which is a nice feature, but I can do just about what it does with my Windows Phone already so not missing much here. The UI is quite washed up though and just seems old school now!
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Pederson 18th Oct
@OhTheHumanity - but after the update, you were still stuck with a Windows device, and nobody wants that. So what is your point?
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Badgered 18th Oct
@Pederson you were still stuck with a Windows device, and nobody wants that. So what is your point?

Apparently he does... so what was yours?
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OhTheHumanity 18th Oct
@OhTheHumanity
yes I am stuck with a Windows device that blows away whatever you have. Most that say those things have never used it and refuse to look at it out of ignorance. I have used all the platforms and I'm sorry but you can stick to the two horse race of old washed up UI's, but I will stick with my snappy and slick Windows device. I've used it for 5 months now and not once have I had to restart or pull a battery. I can't say so much for other phones on the market. If you still think Windows phone is comparable to Windows mobile of the past you really have no idea what the new OS is all about. Its like night and day and I can actually say I would recommend it to anyone that wants a phone that "just works".
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OhTheHumanity 18th Oct
@Pederson
Oh and mark my words, you will be seeing others trying to duplicate the metro UI in the future.
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MankyManning 19th Oct
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aep528 18th Oct
@toddybottom

My iOS5 upgrade went smoothly, if slowly. But I wouldn't have lost anything even if the backup failed. Why? Because it is a MOBILE device - I don't keep anything stored locally on it. No photos, no docs, contacts are stored online, etc.
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Good advice that bears repeating
toddybottom 18th Oct
@aep528
I did not lose any data other than my text messages and game progress. No big deal. What I lost were all my applications that needed to be manually reinstalled. With the exceptions I noted about though, I did not lose any data.

Listen up folks, iPhone is an inherently unsafe device. Backup or, preferrably, store things anywhere but on the iPhone. Then when the next upgrade causes you to reformat and reinstall (funny we've been told that this is only a Windows troubleshooting technique) you won't lose anything that can't be recovered with 4-8 hours of manual work.
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SuperComputerGuru 18th Oct
@toddybottom Mine went smooth as can be.
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kidronst 28th Oct
@toddybottom
To all_ I upgraded my iPad First generation with difficulty. Later I found that my MAIL Program frequently crashes in mid composition, or just disappears without warning. After doing "restore to New iPad", recommended by the local support on phone--- by a PC iTunes, the MAIL APP still crashes at times. Its impossible to get more direct Apple support. See the official Apple Forum on this:

I quote >>>
View the full discussion

https://discussions.apple.com/message/16550934#16550934

"I've been experiencing the same slow downs described here with my iPad 1. I used the Informit app and it showed only 72 MB of RAM available. I restarted the iPad and the app reported the same amount of RAM. No difference. Things are so bad that Safari crashes everytime I use it and some apps won't launch. "
By a commentator on the Forum

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tramps 18th Oct
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kamitomo_png@... 18th Oct
I waited 'til Saturday for mine. Upgrade itself took just over an hour. No apps! My last restore did restore data though..... Data restore seemed OK as I re-installed apps and looked at data. This was on Gen 1 iPad. Considering I have 150+ apps, I'm not impressed.....
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kenosha77a 18th Oct
I have only two iOS 5 upgradable devices - an iPad 1 and an iPad 2.

Both updates went smoothly but then again, I updated both my iMac and my MacBook to ver 10.7.2 first. I also updated all my apps that required an update before I attempted to update my iPads. I used a direct ethernet cable connection from my router to my OS X machines rather than my WiFi network connection. (I don't know if that made any difference, frankly.)

I then put both iPads into their respective docking stations and let iTunes "do it's thing".

Except for the time involved, all updates went super smooth. BTW, iOS 5 is a fantastic upgrade. Thanks to Toddybottom's related post, I am enjoying added multi-touch gestures support on my iPads. The built-in dictionary feature works great as well.
Know several folks who have had a nightmare of a time with the "upgrade".

"...it just works"...maybe.
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It's slow, unresponsive at times, and the screen does not update like it used to (e.g. I fast forward a song and the icon tuns from play to pause then back to play).
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itinko 18th Oct
IPad update failed with "unknown error". Haven't had the nerve to try iPhone since so many reports of attempts bricking the phone.
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What a pain. When you have more than 1 (and many people do and don't know it) it can be a pain. iOS 5.0 works easily with 2:

1) An Apple ID used for purchases.

2) An Apple ID used for the iCloud for data syncing.

But the issue is if you have a mobile me and how it associates mobile me address to Apple IDs. Like historical allowances (multiple Apple IDs being verified to a single Apple ID) are no longer allowed.

I understand (after struggling with this) what the differences are and why the changes/limits exist (mostly), but the complete lack of education and a really good write up on the mess of Apple IDs is a disappointment.
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RE: Beware the iOS 5 update
R Harris Updated - 18th Oct
@Bruizer Thanks for the tip. AFAIK I've only had 1 Apple ID, but it goes back years to .Mac and maybe before. Whatever the problem it would be nice if the error code - or Support - offered some advice.
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You said it....
rhonin 18th Oct
@Bruizer
Didn't think about it till I ran into it.
Learned by the time I did the iPad2.
One id for iTunes and one id for Me.
Was an otj surprise. sad
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DannyO_0x98 Updated - 18th Oct
@Bruizer
I hear you. My conversion to iOS went fine, but I had to go in and fix some settings so my AppleID was the one I use and not the mobile me address.

I have a feeling there will be some friction down the road. I am hopeful they work out the multiple ID issue sooner than later.
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I was lucky to avoid mobile me
toddybottom 18th Oct
@Bruizer
GMail (actually Google Apps for me) is far superior. I had no issues related to Apple IDs because I stayed away from Mobile Me (and .Mac).
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mainvision 18th Oct
Yes, beware It wasn't so simple for me: iOs5 killed my iPad. Tried restoring it on two different machines, still doesn't work. I am trying the Apple support site, before taking it to a service centre for repairs. The iPad was completely kosher, no jailbreaks, perfect condition. Looking at the Apple support site, I am not the only one in this situation. So, think twice before upgrading, if you can resist the urge happy
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Stuck at Backing Up
JBACO@... 18th Oct
The download portion went smoothly, but the iOS5 install has been stuck at Backing Up for three hours with no green progress bar movement. The iPod Touch 4 shows Synch in Progress, but there's very little hard drive activity on my iTunes laptop.
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Scrabbler Updated - 18th Oct
Yes, I can relate to the bad experience (upgraded my iPad 2 last week).
It appears to be a feature that old backups are deleted after the upgrade. Too bad that for me 90% of apps and local data were deleted as well. I got no error messages whatsoever: the apps simply vanished without a trace.
Apps were easy to re-download (if you count downloading 50 or so apps one-by-one as easy), but local data was nowhere to be found.

This was not a huge problem to me. I did not trust iOS with anything valuable to begin with. Three hours of my life were wasted though. A had to start a couple games from the beginning which is annoying, but no big deal.

The worst thing was that iOS5 is not much better or even different than the old version. The only two features out of 200+ I found useful is the tabbed browser and the Notification Center. But I think of them as flaws of iOS4 (which should have been fixed long ago) rather than "new features" of iOS5.

To make this not sound as an Apple hate post, I wasn't even able to upgrade Android version on my HTC phone after two days of tinkering.
@Scrabbler
I think the Notification Center is a huge upgrade so that alone makes it worthwhile.

I'm also looking forward to wireless syncing working properly. Right now, my iDevice can't be seen by iTunes wirelessly until I first plug it in wired. Then it works until iTunes is restarted. Not ideal.
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Scrabbler 18th Oct
@toddybottom
Wireless sync is not supported on either of my three laptops (Windows XP, Ubuntu and Snow Leopard). I am *not* getting the forth one (or an upgrade) just to enable the "wireless" sync which actually requires a wire. I can sync with a wire just fine without iCloud.
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Poorly is descriptive
rhonin Updated - 18th Oct
Copy from a previous post I made a few days back.....
iOS5 installed on all but one device...
3GS - put it on, restored to 4.3.3 - was too slow on 5
i4 - Still having issues - after GB help and resets/reinstalls the phone still lags... not a happy camper...
iPad2 - came out okay at the end... had to reinstall almost everything and lost all personal info.

Score: failing grade for iOS5 upgrades. Did not have a single error free upgrade.

But..... I am now a happy camper. My SGS2 came and this phone freakin' rocks!!!! Blows my i4 away by a looong shot in all areas.

One update, my legacy i4 still runs "sluggish" even when used as an iTouch.
After this trip I am going to experiment with it to see if I can identify what the issue is.....
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dfl274 18th Oct
No problem upgrading my iphone 4.
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migoblue 18th Oct
My iphone 4 update went fine, not so my ipad2. Somewhere along the line my Outlook email was deleted. Had to uninstall Office 2010 completely and then reinstall. Also iTunes kept launching by itself every few minutes. Had to turn off auto syncing.
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iTunes is a piece of work!
OhTheHumanity 18th Oct
@migoblue
iTunes is the problem I have seen it affect things from removing the DVD drive entries from the registry to messing up Office installations. I have used hundreds of pieces of software and iTunes by far wreaks the most havoc on a Windows system. Very slow and full of security holes as well.
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pcat56 20th Oct
@OhTheHumanity I so agree! ITunes is the most cumbersome, non-intuitive program I have ever used. Everything is so much harder than it needs to be!
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Eric sd 18th Oct
My iPad 1 took a while but went find. The problem is that my iPad has slowed down significantly. Apps and webpage load much slower. There is also a delay in typing. I have a 32GB 3G that is only 1/2 full. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Eric sd 21st Oct
@Eric sd UPDATE: I took my slow iPad 1 to an Apple Store. The tech suggested I "restore" to factory defaults using itunes then manual re-sync all my apps. That did the trick. IOS5 is installed and running smoothly.
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So much for "it just works". Looks like Apple is joining the ranks of the other tech companies - rush it out the door and cross your fingers.
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previso@... 18th Oct
As a wireless telco tech I've had my share of "not syncing" calls, from ICal, Gmail, all the way to "cannot restore, previous back up incompatible". Let's face it, most users have no idea how to deal with this, and Apple has chosen to play blind monkey, leaving everyone to fend for themselves.
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adyteo@... Updated - 18th Oct
My iPad iOS5 upgrade went smooth. Everything was backed up, upgraded and restored automatically, without ANY glitch. All applications work properly, all my data is where it was before. No complaints.
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CCC is also free...
WarhavenSC 18th Oct
Payment (or rather, donation) is completely optional. The only difference is if you donate a few bucks to the author, you can get a copy that doesn't sport the small advertisement during the cloning/back up process. Other than that, the applications are identical.
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sadly iOSUFFER
TurnDot 18th Oct
error -34... wont complete backup, says its interrupted (By who/what?) Basically my itunes library isn't updating. I am one of the disgruntled!
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Tried to upgrade my iPhone 4 more than a dozen times... I keep getting the error after the download "The software for the iPhone 4 XYZ was corrupted during download" This is not good... iPad2 updated without a hitch but the process took 2hrs
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aart12 18th Oct
I didn't have those problems... but I did experience some other issues;
Music: 90% of my music was corrupted. Required deleting my library, syncing the phone, re-importing the music from backup, re-syncing.
Contacts: 100% of my contacts were wiped out. Ordinarily that would have freaked me out. Fortunately I use the contacts in Google, which I then was able to re-sync.
Apps: Destroyed my categorized folders and most of the installed apps, which required re-downloading from iTunes, and then the tedious task of re-catagorizing. I used iTunes for that, because doing it on the phone soon became a wrist-slitting experience.

So, yeah, my upgrade was FAR from smooth and event-free.
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audible_paradigm 18th Oct
When I updated to the previous OS4.3.5 I lost all my data and was able to back up from a backup which was a couple of months old. I realised the importance of backing up and when I updated to ios5 again I lost all my data. But Prior to updating I did a backup and cut and pasted the file to the desktop leaving the backup folder empty. Next I installed ios5 and once it had been fully updated I then copied the backup file back in its original folder then restored from the back up. The process took a number of hours as there was 30 gig of apps and music to copy I did however get impatient as I noticed all the apps had not been put back as they were originally so I started moving them around from itunes as it was syncing. when I upgraded thge ipad2 I didnt touch the folders the folders were set up perfectly as before as when I backed up, when it was done it was exactly as I think apple intended it to be.
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annoyed@... 18th Oct
When updating my Iphone 4, I got an error message -54. I have a backup from just before updating the iOS, but nothing I can do will restore the backup on to my phone. It keeps stopping an giving me that error message. Apple help has been absolutely useless. Even trying to start from scratch won't work as it won't synch with my phone.
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4 out of 5 went smooth
oncall 18th Oct
The fifth one, I was doing something else with iTunes and it crashed the last install on my wife's iPad. Fortunately I did a sync before updating my devices so I did a factory restore then installed iOS 5 on the restored iPad then did a restore from backup.

No apps lost though that seems a common complaint. I wonder if people are pulling their devices off the line before iTunes does the app reload at the very end? I noticed that myself, after iOS installers the device will let you take it and start using it even though iTunes is still reinstalling the apps in the background.
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Lonerodp 29th Nov
Please do nor update to this new os. It just SUCKS. The safari multi tab is the worst when you go from one tab to other it has to load the page all over again. The key board is slow as hell. Overall very disspointed . Never knew that apple could do such a screwed up job of not testing before releasing the new os. I use iPad 1.

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