Blu-ray's special Xmas gift: no 3D for you!

By | December 30, 2009, 6:45am PST

Summary: The Blu-ray Disk Association (BDA) announced last week that your brand new Blu-ray player is already obsolete: it is incompatible with the new 3D Blu-ray spec.

The Blu-ray Disk Association (BDA) announced last week that your brand new Blu-ray player is already obsolete: it is incompatible with the new 3D Blu-ray spec.

Should you care?

Cash cow or albatross?
The hurried adoption of 3D - a costly new medium with a 0.000% share of the home market - smells of desperation. Once the novelty wears off, will the hassle and expense of special glasses, a new HD3D TV and a player attract a mass audience that still hasn’t bought into Blu-ray?

Quick answer: nope.

Blu-ray reality check
Back on Planet Earth, how is Blu-ray doing? Not so well, but thank you for asking.

According to the Wall Street Journal, 2 years after Blu-ray “won” the HD format war:

. . . the take from Blu-ray has been underwhelming. The high-definition home-video format, now four years old, will produce . . . 14 percent of anticipated sales of regular DVDs this year, and half what the older format produced in its fourth year, in 2000.

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And since Blu-ray disks cost more than DVDs, 14% way overstates the unit sales percentage. Most Blu-ray sales are new movies at high prices, while the DVD market includes many sales at $10 or less.

Dreaming of a Blu Christmas
Low prices - lower than DVD players were at the 4 year mark - are spurring player sales this year. Wal-Mart offers an $80 player - an easy impulse buy.

The low prices are working. Another WSJ article (subscription may be required) notes that Blu-ray player sales are up 54% this year, but with a twist:

. . . shoppers are also flocking to models that cost a bit more, . . . for their ability to stream content from the Internet, including movies, television shows and music from services like Netflix Inc., Google Inc.’s YouTube and Pandora Media Inc.

The question for Hollywood is: will people load up on Blu-ray disks in the middle of a Great Recession when online content is so much more convenient?

The Storage Bits take
I have a nifty home theater - 10 foot HD screen, 5.1 surround sound, Blu-ray player, leather recliners - and many visitors. Blu-ray’s sharper picture is only rarely noticed: people get involved with a story, not a picture.

While I’d like Blu-ray to be a success, and I prefer physical media, Hollywood can’t count on Blu-ray, even 3D Blu-ray, to reignite disk sales. The landscape has changed permanently.

  • Competition for viewer attention is much higher, thanks to all the distractions on the Internet. That will only increase.
  • 3D has a chance in theaters, assuming the issues of viewer headaches and dorky glasses are overcome.
  • The brewing “format war” in home 3D delivery systems will slow adoption just as much as the lack of 3D content will.
  • The early popularity of networked download appliances is a warning to home media server vendors: you’ve fallen way short of meeting home market needs. I’m looking at you, Apple TV.

Hollywood’s best hope is a ringtone strategy: encourage consumers to regard media as disposable fashion, not “content.” Low prices and multiple download/player formats will let consumers buy and enjoy without counting pennies - or crying too much when they lose copies.

The bits are free, after all. And the competition is fierce. The multi-billion dollar ringtone market is a model, not a mistake.

Comments welcome, of course. PS3 owners, don’t worry: you are compatible with the new 3D spec. A personal supercomputer has its advantages.

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Robin Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small.

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Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small. He introduced a couple of multi-billion dollar storage products (DLT, the first Fibre Channel array) to market, as well as a many smaller ones. Earlier he spent 10 years marketing servers and networks. After leaving corporate life he founded TechnoQWAN, a consulting and analyst firm. He also developed StorageMojo into one of the top storage industry blogs.

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RE: Blu-ray's special Xmas gift: no 3D for you!
yarinsiz Updated - 16th Apr 2011
Well done! Thank you very much for professional templates and community edition
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ha, ha, ha!
Linux Geek 30th Dec 2009
The blue ray consortium relies on suckers (a.k.a. dumb American consumers) to keep this gimmick alive.
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Now you attack americans
bobiroc 30th Dec 2009
You seriously need therapy. Do you think before you post because most (if not all) of your comments on any thread you post have been stupid and immature attacks on anything you do not like.

That being said I am an American and I am neither stupid or dumb. If a person finds value in Blu-Ray and wants to pay for it that is their business but to make a general comment about everybody in another country is just immature and prejudice. There are stupid people in every country and what ever country you come from I think you are the leader of those stupid people and I base that opinion off of the things you say and how you instantly make unwarranted attacks on others.
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only the rich and dumb...
Linux Geek 30th Dec 2009
the kind of people that voted for Obama and the libs.
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nt
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and probably a woman too.
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Nice one
T1Oracle 30th Dec 2009
She is conservative but intellect is clearly not her forte. Plus, intellect is one of them elitist words for edumacated folk.
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In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
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oh, there are plenty of them.
lostarchitect 31st Dec 2009
They're very rich, and they're behind the
scenes pulling the strings of puppets like
McCain and Bush. They're the ones who keep
public education poor in this country so they
can continue to trick the lower class into
voting Republican against their own interests.
They're the ones who came up with the strategy
of using religion as a wedge, again tricking
the (purposefully) undereducated poor into
voting for people who have exactly none of
their interests at heart. It's a sad and scary
situation.
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RE: Blu-ray's special Xmas gift: no 3D for you!
Loverock Davidson 30th Dec 2009
My experiences with blue ray have been underwhelming. I recently watched The Hangover on blue ray on a 55" flat screen TV. While the colors looked bright and pretty, it was the motions that got to me. It felt like things in the foreground were going in slow motion against objects in the background. It happened several times throughout the movie. Maybe its just me and the way my brain interpreted the screen, but I think I would have preferred a regular dvd instead of blue ray.
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Blu-Ray vs Upconvert DVD
bobiroc 30th Dec 2009
In most cases people should just invest in an upconvert DVD player that will take their DVDs and enhance the resolution. Most people cannot tell the difference. Blu-Ray does have pretty good sound but only if you invest heavily into a expensive 7.1+ sound system but again many people do not even notice that. I have played a Blu-Ray Movie and an upconverted DVD side by on the same TV at 1080P and the difference is nominal and for my money I will save the $10 - $20 a movie and get the DVD.
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RE: Blu-ray's special Xmas gift: no 3D for you!
1grumpyoldfart@... 30th Dec 2009
If you had a new 240Hz flat screen theres a real difference in quality. Night and day!
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That's the secret!
wkulecz 30th Dec 2009
You've just not spent enough money to get full measure from Blu-ray!

Not only is your player planned obsolete, you need a new TV and sound system too!
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I think your problem is the 10ft screen you have. When
people come over and see my setup, they are amazed at the
difference in quality. I don't think Blu-ray is high definition
enough for a screen of that size.
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Size matters . . .
R Harris 30th Dec 2009
Most folks who see it compare it to a movie theater - a small one, to be
sure - not to a TV screen. I've got some movies in both formats and I can
see the difference is sharpness, but it just isn't that big a difference.

I recommend that people who like movies check out a 10" or larger
screen with a good upconverting DVD player - like Oppo Digital's - and a
Panasonic HD front projector. Once you try it is hard to imagine going
back.

Of course, you need to sit 10" or so from the screen, too.
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10 inches!
Mac Hosehead 30th Dec 2009
This has got to be a joke from a Spinal Tap movie.
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Feet or inches?
Zogg Updated - 31st Dec 2009
I recommend that people who like movies check out a 10" or larger screen

You've just said ten inches, not ten feet.

Of course, you need to sit 10" or so from the screen, too.

So you do sit 10 feet away from the screen, or 10 inches away? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Why would anyone buying Blu-Ray ...
condelirios 30th Dec 2009
NOT buy a PS3? It is totally stupid to buy a standalone player when the PS3 offers forward compatibility and all of the other incredible features it has on top of it. At $299 a PS3 is a great bargin.
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Oh, I don't know
itpro_z 30th Dec 2009
Perhaps because the POSIII is Sony crap? This is a tech site after all, and we still remember Sony's virus infected CDs, and their denial. Add to that Sony's declining quality of product, arrogance, and overpricing, and you have a brand that is easy to boycott.
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Lots of reasons
Real World 30th Dec 2009
Because I can get a stand-alone Blu-ray player for less than $100, because I don't want another game system (which can easily become a money pit) in my house, because I don't trust Sony, etc.
Sure the picture quality will be nicer, but you won't get even 5.1 surround sound (standard with DVD) for that price. The cheap blu-ray players are compromised devices, they have no purpose. A blu-ray movie is not just video it is audio too, and as this article shows it is still a developing format that needs an upgradable player.

The PS3 is the only real blu-ray player, those cheap things are scams.
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Funny . . . .
JLHenry Updated - 4th Jan 2010
the Magnavox boxes at Wally world say Dolby 7.1 on them. If they don't have that, I can a BIIGGG lawsuit ahead . . .

Or, you could just be full of it today . . .
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lol
civikminded 8th Jan 2010
You have no idea what you are talking about do you?
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NT
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All of the alternatives are horrible. If you want blu-ray at all you should be buying a PS3.
And it's a total deal-breaker. Geez!
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nt
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What may speed Blue Ray adoption is lowered prices and compatability with PCs. By that I mean that we can get a reasonalbly priced BR burner for the computer. This was what I was really looking forward to - increased storage in an alternative format; ability to put more of my home movies on one disk; ability to take advantage of HD video editing...and sharing. If they can get the cost of computer burners down, then they might have a more compelling product.
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You've forgotten
wkulecz 30th Dec 2009
You fail to remember the nightmares of DVD-R/DVD+R and compatibility (lack thereof) with the installed DVD player base. When I got my first $500 Pioneer DVD-R burner I tried 25 players in Circuit City with my burned disk, exactly three played it, and none played without glitches or artifacts, although the disk played fine on a PC sad

I ain't going through that again.

Get one of the media player boxes and play or distribute over USB hard drives or memory sticks.

So far the Viewsonic VMP 70 is looking pretty good for $90 (no storage included) and claims to support 1080p over HDMI (our display is still 1080i so I can't vouch for it).
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DVDs now cost more than BD
ncted 30th Dec 2009
I picked up LOST Season 5, Star Trek (2009), Harry Potter 6, and Battlestar Galactica: The Plan on BD last night from Amazon, and in all cases the DVD cost more. I also picked up a $100 Insignia Blu-Ray player that also does NetFlix streaming after Thanksgiving. NetFlix is nice for sitcoms and filler content, but nothing compares to Blu-Ray quality while watching movies.
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Sabatoge
wkulecz 30th Dec 2009
Seems to me in an effort to make Blu-ray look better, they are sabotaging newer DVDs. Got the Dark Knight DVD and it was the worst encoding I'd seen in many years! All kinds of jaggies, mosquito noise, and flicker. Played back on a Sony player too!
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I have seen both "A Christmas Carol" and "Avatar" in the past month and have been thrilled with the 3D experience. Maybe it's the ticket for boosting Blue Ray.

Blue Ray presently costs too much. If I have to junk my player and buy a new TV to get 3D, I doubt that I will make the investment any time soon. Good news for AMC.
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Glad I haven't bought one yet!
wkulecz Updated - 30th Dec 2009
I didn't think these guys had any feet left to shoot themselves in.

Good chance I may never bother with getting one.
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3D will continue to be a niche
djmik 30th Dec 2009
I had this conversation with friends last night after seeing Avatar in 3D. Cool experience, granted, but it is not that much better than 3D of the past, and we saw how much that was adopted. In the home? Only those with a disposable income MIGHT be interested, but it is simply not practical for everyday use, especially when it involves replacing a significant portion of the home theater to achieve.

I think people are fickle with tech. A good showing of a couple of 3D movies and all of a sudden the media and industry is ready to push new players, new TVs and even a dedicated channel for 3D programming. By this time next year, we will have moved on. Watch.
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IMHO
oncall 30th Dec 2009
3D movies are really an attempt to get people to come to the theaters, it's marketing really. Now you have a $12 dollar experience that, quite frankly, Average Joe simply won't be able to duplicate at home with average home entertainment gear. If you want the 3D Avatar experience you must go to a theater and if you want the BEST 3D experience you must seek out an IMAX 3D theater, each step up costs more per ticket.

My fear is that they will just pack in more 3D WOW and other things, like a good story line, will be pushed to the back.
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Most BD players are less than 200$
civikminded Updated - 8th Jan 2010
You are crazy if you DON'T buy one. You get BD and upconverting DVD all in one. Robin is just trying to will all his Blu-Ray predictions from a year ago to come into existence. If you can't feel the momentum that BD has picked up over the last 6 months than you aren't paying attention.
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RE: Blu-ray's special Xmas gift: no 3D for you!
yarinsiz Updated - 16th Apr 2011
Well done! Thank you very much for professional templates and community edition
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