Techies choose Obama - by a landslide

By | October 5, 2008, 9:20pm PDT

If techies could choose the next President, Obama would win in a landslide. Checking donors from 10 large tech companies, including Apple, Dell, Google and Microsoft, over 90% of the donations support the senator from Illinois. Why does high-tech love Obama?

First the numbers
The OpenSecrets.org Donor Lookup page supplied the numbers. When you make a political contribution you are required to give your employer’s name.

Just pick the Presidential candidate, put in an employer name, and hit OK. Voila! All the contributors who gave that company as their employer are listed in the records.

The numbers need some cleaning. For example, if 1 person gave 3 donations, that is listed as 3 records. Also, returned donations are another record that don’t indicate another donor.

I cleaned up the Obama numbers by pulling out returned donation numbers, donations from companies with similar names and some of the single donor/multiple donation records, something I didn’t do for McCain because his numbers are so weak.

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McCain’s policies
Why are in-the-know techies like Vint Cerf and YouTube founder Chad Hurley supporting Obama? Maybe it has something to do with the policies each promotes.

The most obvious tech difference between the candidates is the Obama supports net-neutrality and McCain is against it. The Electronic Frontier Foundation noted press reports that of the 66 current or former lobbyists working for McCain, 23 have lobbied for telcos.

As Commerce Committee chairman until last year, McCain could have pushed for aggressive broadband policies to keep the US in the forefront of Internet deployment and commerce. Instead the US is falling further behind in both speed and penetration among industrialized nations.

McCain also flip-flopped on retroactive immunity for illegal warrantless wiretapping. He was against it last year and this year offered “unqualified” support. Obama also voted for the bill, but at least he knows the Constitutional problems.

Obama’s policies
Besides consistent support for net-neutrality, Obama also supports a number of tech-friendly initiatives:

  • Deploy next generation broadband and ensure access as we did decades ago with electricity and telephones.
  • Major expansion of university-based research
  • Patent system reform through PTO funding increases and citizen review.
  • Scientific integrity “Obama and Biden will restore the basic principle that government decisions should be based on the best-available, scientifically-valid evidence and not on the ideological predispositions of agency officials or political appointees.”
  • Green energy development through a $150 billion program for biofuels, plug-in hybrids and commercial renewable energy.

The Storage Bits take
Conservative columnist George Will noted McCain’s “. . . impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people and events . . . .” If Obama loses - and I think he will - (Update: I was wrong!) the computer industry will suffer McCain’s anger for their lop-sided support of Obama.

The telco’s will enjoy free rein in the White House. The world’s most creative and sophisticated tech innovators will be hobbled by a 3rd rate network infrastructure. Who is that good for?

Looking at the numbers, the surprising thing was how few people bothered to donate to either candidate. The 10 companies employ over 500,000 people; just over 3,000 contributed to either campaign. Wake up, people!

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Do you
Ethical_Loner 26th Nov 2008
practice at being such an ass? Campaign finance reform could well have told a very different story on November 5th. Any half wit can tell you that with the sheep mentality in the U.S. all you have to do is saturate said sheep with media hype and a great number of them will do your bidding. So yeah, all they needed was MORE money!

Even better, offer them something for nothing (whether or not they actually get it) and the sheep will come in droves.

I am sure all the lazy n'er do wells in this country deeply appreciate YOUR contribution.
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Gee...
Tim Patterson 5th Oct 2008
Robin posts a full-page Obama AD.

And after Obama is done raping us with all of his tax increases, exactly how will any of these things be paid for?

Aside from a few good policy positions (meaningless talk) Obama would be a disaster for our nation on so many levels.
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So McCain is a better choice ...
LBiege Updated - 5th Oct 2008
b/c of his mavericky insightful pick of Sarah Palin as VP, right?

Paying more tax is painful but having a VP that makes Bush look smart is downright ridiculous.
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Translation
frgough 6th Oct 2008
Anyone who doesn't suck their baby out with a vacuum cleaner is
stupid.
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No.....
James Quinn 6th Oct 2008
Anyone who when tested with questions she is now ready
for can can't answer might be a bit dim.

However she does do well when in control of a given
environment like speeches or talking points however. So
not a total loss.

She looks good too...BONUS!

Pagan jim
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That's sick
seanferd 6th Oct 2008
And does not follow.
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Way to persuade someone with that talk....
OhTheHumanity 6th Oct 2008
Seems the only thing anyone can say is that she is stupid and makes Bush look smart? This is the kind of debate that comes from the left. I guess that is American education for you, just call someone names and convince people that they are stupid too if they vote for Mccain. Is this real debate in their minds? Seriously, I feel like I am living in a big huge glorified elementary school where everyone picks on each other. I rarely see anyone that really knows Obama's policies and his associations with radical nut cases. No one I know would be associating with those people, but its alright for Obama to do it. People are so helpless these days and can't keep from looking to the government for parental guidance.
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Now the mud sling begins
LBiege 6th Oct 2008
Obama is associated with radical nut case, huh? How about McCain associated with a financial fraud in early 80s? You wanna play that game. LOL, typical republican dirty tricks. When will you guys pull off the "Harold call me" stuff?
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Hmmm...
Churlish 6th Oct 2008
Let's compare:

Hazy, hastily dredged-up (fabricated?) innuendo about MacCain's alleged connection to a financial scandal in the '80s, or...

...Obama's well-documented, decades-long association with anti-American radicals such as Ayers and Wright.

Hmmm, which is more damning for a leader: a tenuous linkage to a decades-old financial scandal vs. repeated contact with virulently (and violently) treasonous individuals over those same decades?

McCain has my vote. It amazes me that so many supposedly intelligent "technical" people would vote otherwise.
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Innuendo?
msalzberg 6th Oct 2008
From ABC:
" The Senate Ethics Committee ultimately cited McCain for
?poor judgment? in meeting with those regulators on
Keating?s behalf, though his actions was also deemed "not
improper nor attended with gross negligence." Keating
ultimately went to prison for fraud and McCain became
active in campaign finance reform, almost a form of public
penance.

"The appearance of it was wrong," McCain later told the
Arizona Republic. "It's a wrong appearance when a group
of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators
because it conveys the impression of undue and improper
influence. And it was the wrong thing to do...I was judged
eventually, after three years, of using, quote, poor
judgment, and I agree with that assessment."

McCain himself acknowledged the connection.
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Sad aren't they?
storm14k 6th Oct 2008
I see why this country is in trouble. The right-wingers don't know fact from fiction.
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Hastily drawn up????
storm14k 6th Oct 2008
How do you hastily draw up innuendo about the Keating 5? Theres nothing to draw up. It was real...IT HAPPENED. If you don't believe that then you probably shouldn't be voting.
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Yes, it happened, but...
cfmiv 7th Oct 2008
McCain would have been let off if he hadn't been the only Republican. That prompted him to do worse by stepping on our First Amendment rights through so-called campaign finance reform. It's really been reformed, huh?

Again we have a sad choice of candidates. But Obama is a Marxist. He said it's "neighborly" for the government to force productive people who earn a good living to give even more to those who don't. Have you done the math? My wife and I pay 45% of our income in taxes at all levels (income, property, sales, etc.). After 10% to our 401k and 5% to charity, we have 40% to live on. And BHO wants us to pay more. Will that really help the economy and IT? There is no limit to his desire for government control of the economy.
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Hastily drawn up?
MsUnderestimated 7th Oct 2008
Don't forget about John Glenn, who is an Obama operative, who had the SAME LEVEL of involvement with the Keating 5. Different standards for different parties. Keep on fantasizing.
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You forgot one thing...
sqr(cos(180)) 3rd Nov 2008
The investigators of the S&L loan scandal told the socialists running the investigatory committee that McCain was not involved in any way. But, because he was Republican, they continued the tar 'n feather process and the pejoratives continue to this day.

Yup, "innocent" sure sounds like "fry the SOB" to some people.
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Ask Obama about it?
OhTheHumanity 6th Oct 2008
I was not the one that made it up, its fact that he is associated with Resko, Ayers, Wright, and some other men in Chicago like Farakkan. Now I don't know how that is mud slinging because I would call out any person that was associated with these clowns. So do you agree with the what the fellows I have listed above think? Because the ideas that come out of that bunch are radical and not about freedom and the rights of others. Mccain was not found guilty of anything relating to the Keating scandal and it would be nice in a perfect world to know exactly what your donors are doing in their business dealings, but its not. I will say that Obama was fully aware of Ayers and his ideas of killing and bombing to make his case, which in turn makes him a nut case. Correct me if I am wrong? Good luck.
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So you'd like to get ugly, huh.
LBiege 6th Oct 2008
Well if you want see smear material on McCain, there's a lot. I mean A LOT. It's just a matter of if Dems want this election to be that ugly or not.

Check this video:
http://www.youtube.com/v/WqZopuS1AYk&hl=en&fs=1
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I have you tube blocked so can't see your video, how about naming something or two that is in the video so the rest of us can see what smear tactic you have up your sleeve. But as you know the fellows that I mentioned that Obama has relations to are people involved in his political machine and have been since he started his political career in the living room of William Ayers. And I will say I would never get my picture taken with a low life like Ayers or any of those other fellows. Would you?
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If you're interested in facts, check this out.
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/10/03/do_facts_matter?page=1

Yes, the Dems want it to get ugly. I can't ever get a Dem to discuss issues, they just want to shout and criticize. They tell me my ideas are insane or absurd but don't offer anything constructive.

BTW, I think McCain is a terrible candidate. I just think Obama is worse.
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Is there any doubt?
MsUnderestimated 7th Oct 2008
... that the dems want to get ugly? That's how they 'roll.'
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Please, what nonsense
stano360 3rd Nov 2008
Gee that's funny Telcos aren't tech companies?

Revenues have gone up after the tax decrease not down, the problem with Bush was that he didn't stop spending. 9/11 caused us to change some spending priorities, but instead in his urge to please everyone (i.e. Democrats) he never cut spending on other programs.

Paying more tax will bring our economy to its knees and these liberal tech companies with more money than sense will pay the price.
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Tim is right
SAStarling 6th Oct 2008
...Obama is nothing but an empty suit. And I have to laugh (to keep from crying) when I over-hear folks talking about how Obama will need the full 8 years/2 terms to "clean up Bush's mess."

Just exactly how can Bush be so "dumb," yet be so responsible for everything bad that has happened in this country (and around the world)? No matter what the case, it's always "Bush's fault." Yet when something good happens, it's always accredited to the Dem congress. I still can't belive that Pelosi got away with saying the surge worked due to the benevolence of the Iranians. What a sham.
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When I was in college
frgough 6th Oct 2008
I discovered a type of human being I described as the
"educated idiot." It is a person who knows a lot of things, but
hasn't a clue on how to actually apply his knowledge to the real
world.

I discovered this type of human when in a physics lab
measuring the period of a pendulum. I instructed my lab
partner that we needed to take our measurement over a short
duration so as to minimize error caused by the change in the
pendulum's period.

He then proceeded to lecture me on how pendulum periods do
not change, quoting me the equation. My reply was to ask him
if the pendulum was swinging now (yes). Would it be swinging
tomorrow (no). Therefore the pendulum period will have
changed. He continued to argue with me, stating that it
decayed in a limit function, quoting much mathematics in the
process. My reply was to tell him that greater than zero does
not equal zero, therefore the period will have changed.

Nothing I could say would convince him.

This man probably votes Democrat today and considers himself
highly educated, but doesn't realize he's an idiot.
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Why tell such a ridiculous story? Obviously he missed the lecture on friction. He isn't an "educated idiot," he's naive and over confident.

Before you compare that to Obama and McCain, look at the VP choice. Obama choose a capable VP, McCain choose a pop tart. ("gosh darnit, you betcha!") Judgment anyone?
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Before you compare Palin to anybody...
JohnMcGrew@... 6th Oct 2008
...shouldn't you compare your Presidential choice? Every time you take a cheap shot at Palin (who has actually won contested elections and has a job where she doesn't get to just vote "present") to that of a, um, "community organizer"?
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Brain dead?
seosamh_z 6th Oct 2008
...has a job where she doesn't get to just vote "present")...

You talking about a US Senator, like John McCain?

Thanks for analysis.

Joe
...where he can't even take a stand as a Senator.

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/

When you're a President, you don't get to just vote "present".

Thanks for playing.
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@John McGrew...
Linux User 147560 6th Oct 2008
I love using that to kill the Obama supporters! Nicely played! Then again I use that for all the candidates! devil
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Hey, dum mass (yes, a misspell on purpose)
MsUnderestimated 7th Oct 2008
.... you DON'T get to vote "present" as President.
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McCain won't even tell us his plan.
T1Oracle Updated - 6th Oct 2008
He cares more about lipstick on a pig than he does about explaining why he wants to give $300 billion to wealthiest people in America. In the debate all he said in response was "..." Then he wants to drill Obama about $90 billion?

Regardless all we know about McCain's plans is that he votes 90% the same as Bush and that he's been wrong about Iraq from the start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHW-0LDQ0IE

If you want answers on issues Obama/Biden answer every question. McCain/Palin dodge them.

But its ok, McCain doesn't need answers when they have lies:
1) Obama is not Muslim stop accusing him. The fact that they even bring it up only shows that they hate Muslims.
2) Obama said the surge worked, stop lying Palin!
3) Obama said he was "open" to nuclear and to drilling, stop saying he wasn't McCain!
4) Obama, did not call Palin a pig, he only used the same expression McCain used to describe Hillary's plan. It wasn't even directed at Palin.
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So what? Obama votes 97% with the socialists
JohnMcGrew@... 6th Oct 2008
That is, when he votes:

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/
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Top poverty cities
MsUnderestimated 7th Oct 2008
What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in
common?

Democrat leadership.

Detroit, MI
(1st on the poverty
rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY
(2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since
1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has
never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since
1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since
1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.
Since when do Republicans ever represent the concerns of the poor and struggling? Since when do they care about or understand anyone who makes less than $5 Million (McCain's "middle class")?
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Pop tart?
SAStarling 6th Oct 2008
McCain chose a running mate that can speak like a normal person from "flyover country," and that's why her appeal is through the roof. I'm sick of idiots like Joe Biden, and the rest of America is, too. Why do you think Congress has a 9% approval rating? We are all sick to death of politic-speak, and it is refreshing to hear someone who actually makes common sense.
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OK, I'll bite
Taz_z 6th Oct 2008
McCain chose a running mate that can speak like a
normal person from "flyover country," and that's why
her appeal is through the roof.


We can discuss whether or not she can speak like a
normal person. However, I would like to hear her
answer some hard direct questions and discuss McCain's
economy, healthcare, and foreign policy plans; aside
from a couple of bungled interviews and the debate,
she won't answer questions. After all, she is likely
the VP candidate who would be much closer to becoming
president than any other VP candidate at the beginning
of a term.

it is refreshing to hear someone who actually makes
common sense


How can anyone who won't look you in the eye, display
an understanding of the issues, and directly answer a
question make common sense?
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Senseless
T1Oracle 6th Oct 2008
Obviously you have no common sense. Common sense would tell you that in certain situations (I don't know, like a vice presidential debate!) you are supposed to be a professional. "You betcha" is not professional.

"Folksy" talk is slang, you are not supposed talk slang at job interview, why is she doing it during a debate?

Simple, zero common sense.
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Oh you betcha!
Karras 6th Oct 2008
Ah just love someone who can speak to the masses. Downright real, gosh darnit!
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vp candidates
dhays 24th Oct 2008
So Bidden is capable? Haven't you seen all of his gaffes since being selected? He is no more qualified than the other 3. I don't particularly like McCain either, he wasn't my choice. I didn't really like any ofht dozen or so who were running. None have compared to Pete DuPont or Barry Goldwater or even Ronald Reagan.
This Techie/Physics degreed professional WILL NOT be voting for more government control, higher taxes, redistributionof wealth, surrender in Iraq, cozy up to Iran...
I prefer the "STOP OBAMA EXPRESS!"
Actually since Sarah Palin has been and is still a Governor she has more executive experience that the other three!
I like the email that was going around that Obama would be elected, impeached in two years and for the next several elections a Democrat was not elected! (supposedly someone looking back in 30 years)
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Huh?
stano360 3rd Nov 2008
Ok, let's get this straight.

Obama is a Junior Senator that was basically given the election for State Senator through his own political tactics (searching through opponents records for fraudulent signatures, this is Chicago after all). Then he is give the US Senate because the Republican and Democrat opponents drop out.

The main has been a do-nothing senator in the short time he has been one. He has never held a job, he went to Chicago for the sole purpose of moving to a poor, primarily black area, to lay the ground work for political office. Then attend the largest church in the area and attend as little as possible (probably with his Blackberry in tow) and then throw your "mentor" under the bus when you discover the guy is a racist/fascist!

Gov. Palin runs a state! With thousands of employees and a budget.

Good idea, let's compare the VP to the Presidential candidate, it's an embarrassment to Obama.
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frgough: LOL
sqr(cos(180)) Updated - 3rd Nov 2008
Thanks for that!
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Nonsense
T1Oracle 6th Oct 2008
We have massive debt and the economy is failing, and you think that McCain can somehow have his wars, fix the economy, give massive tax breaks to big oil, and still have enough left to lower your taxes?

In our economic situation, taxes will rise irregardless of who becomes president. The only difference is that with Obama the tax raise will go to the big companies and wealthy elite, not the working middle class.
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Taxes breaks only for the middle class?
SAStarling 6th Oct 2008
T1Oracle sez: "The only difference is that with Obama the tax raise will go to the big companies and wealthy elite, not the working middle class."

Excuse me? What about Clinton do you not remember? He promised the same damn thing, and when he got into office, he realized he couldn't do it, either.

And what's this business about "his" wars? That's about as dumb as a Democrat tell a Republican that "their" President blah, blah, blah. Whether or not you like it, he is ALSO your President.
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McCain is not president. nt
T1Oracle 6th Oct 2008
nt
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I never said...
MsUnderestimated 7th Oct 2008
... McCain was President.
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And not just that...
techboy_z 6th Oct 2008
...but remember, Obama isn't just raising taxes on the upper brackets & *holding steady* with current programs...he *also* is gonna try to *ADD* a bunch more spending. Not a little...a BUNCH. I.e. universal healthcare. Now stop and think a minute, people: we (EVERYONE) pay 7.5% for *Medicare* right now...that's just retired folks and the disabled, and not nearly as complete of coverage as most private plans. And Medicare has had funding troubles for years now. You think we can have government *universal* care without the tax for it being about 70% on *EVERYONE*??? No flippin' way it can be done.

Government *never* does anything cheaper than it can be done in private. Something about lack of competition. Ahem.

So yeah, the IDIOTS who are all over the Obama bandwagon better wake up and realize we are all gonna be taxed to freakin' oblivion!! And lose our freedom in the process! Or...Obama is gonna renege on just about every promise he has made that involves an additional entitlement program. Especially in this economic environment.

Can 50% of Americans really be THIS dumb??? This oughta be a landslide for McCain, 70 to 30, if people even SLIGHTLY use their brains!!!

Look, people...have you been to Eastern Europe or the U.S.S.R.??? I've spent time there. Seen what socialism did to those economies. They're **STILL** trying to get on their feet in many places!! The ones who are making the best progress are the countries who have been able to adopt free market capitalist principles...Czech Republic, Poland (though more mixed than C.R.). Places like Ukraine, the battle is still being fought, and there is quite a difference between western and eastern Ukraine.

WAKE UP AMERICA -- TAKE BACK WHAT IS YOURS!!!
And that means:
1) A complete cutting to the core of the Federal government. It has become a completely overgrown, corpulent blood-sucking behemoth!! This must be done...to restore our FREEDOM...and allow for drastic tax cuts.
2) DRASTIC tax cuts, as made possible by # 1. For everyone. Not just the middle class. The tax ought to be a flat tax, and NOONE, rich or not, should EVER be paying more than 10% of their income to the Federal government. Ever. Washington, Hancock, Jefferson, et al., must be flipping in their graves watching what is going on!! WE WOULD BE ABLE to afford our frickin' mortgages, if WE HAD OUR OWN MONEY BACK!! No bailout necessary -- just GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK!!

VOTE THEM OUT. All of them. Every Senator and Rep. November. We all need to do it. It's overdue. And it is time.
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Then that would mean it's time
Linux User 147560 6th Oct 2008
for a Libertarian president with a evenly matched congress and senate. Otherwise... yes 50% or better of the American population is that stupid. devil
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Saying that Obama will increase does not mean that McCain not increase more. McCain wants war with everyone, war killed our economy. McCain wants tax breaks for the rich, but everyone agrees that the middle class is the center of our economy.

McCain wants to give $300 billion to the rich. Obama only wants $90 billion for his projects. Since when is 300 less than 90?

Every anti-Obama argument seems to rely entirely upon ignoring the plans that McCain has for America. McCain is Bush all over again, and that is exactly how we got where we are.
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His (Obama's) voting record has been provided
Linux User 147560 6th Oct 2008
to validate the arguments against him and his campaign. The same will be provided against McCain. I don't see you addressing the facts as recorded by his voting record. devil
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HALLELUHAH!
MsUnderestimated 7th Oct 2008
Amen, techboy_z. You hit the nail on the head.
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The two most recent economic success stories. Estonia, the prime minister got a hold a book by Milton Friedman and because he wasn't indoctrinated by Democrat/European socialism nonsense, just went ahead and applied the principles. Their economy is booming!

The same with Ireland, tax cuts and deregulation. They went from being one of the poorest GNP per capita to one of the highest in Europe!
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Nobody gets it...
tem.digital 6th Oct 2008
"In our economic situation, taxes will rise irregardless of who becomes president."

I agree, 100%. There is no economic plan in the history of politics that doesn't cost money from taxpayers. Don't let either party fool you.

"The only difference is that with Obama the tax raise will go to the big companies and wealthy elite, not the working middle class. "

This comment, however, is just plain ignorant. And sadly, so many people believe that by attacking the "elite few" it's going to help put money in their pocket.

I'd say 98% of the people on this website alone work in medium to large corporations. If those "elite few" are taxed, how the hell do you think they are going to recover those losses? Here's 2 simple ones... 1. increase cost of goods / services sold, and 2. send even MORE jobs over seas. When your company cuts your job to downsize because of higher taxes, don't come crying here.

Whomever becomes president needs to work to keep jobs in the US. If anything, we need to provide a tax / incentive policy to keep corporations here. The "elite few" will always be wealthy, so putting a generic target on some CEO's head does nothing.

As much as we don't like to think about it, a company is comprised of ALL of its people working together. Cut off the head, and the rest shall fall.
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Do you
Ethical_Loner 26th Nov 2008
practice at being such an ass? Campaign finance reform could well have told a very different story on November 5th. Any half wit can tell you that with the sheep mentality in the U.S. all you have to do is saturate said sheep with media hype and a great number of them will do your bidding. So yeah, all they needed was MORE money!

Even better, offer them something for nothing (whether or not they actually get it) and the sheep will come in droves.

I am sure all the lazy n'er do wells in this country deeply appreciate YOUR contribution.

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