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RightScale: Windows now 'usable' in cloud

By | August 18, 2010, 7:48am PDT

RightScale has announced that its yearlong effort to offer Windows support is finished. But it was no easy task, execs noted.

On Tuesday, the cloud management platform provider said that it supports Windows 2003 and Windows 2008 on par with Linux. The company’s chief technical officer said Microsoft has a long way to go to make Windows more cloud friendly but the work Rightscale has done makes the performance of the operating platform close to that of Linux.

According to the company’s press release issued yesterday, “users can now take advantage of RightScale to simplify the complexities of deploying and managing applications in the cloud using its ServerTemplate methodology and new Windows-specific features to meet common cloud computing needs such as dynamically configuring servers, managing software updates, implementing custom stacks, and operating across multiple clouds.”

In his blog, RightScale CTO Thortsen von Eicken elaborated on the benefits now available to its enterprise customers who want to deploy Windows-based applications in the cloud.

“By “support” we mean much more than being able to launch a Windows instance on EC2, which has been possible for a long time,” noted Thorsten von Eicken, RightScale CTO. “e now support Windows 2003 and 2008 on par with Linux. We provide RightImages that work well with RightScale out of the box, they can be managed in the dashboard, we support extensible monitoring, associated alerts and automation, and we support ServerTemplates with Windows and even provide a few sample templates.”

Thortsen von Eicken also elaborated on the many technical challenges encountered during the project and urged Microsoft to work on making Windows more cloud friendly.

“It’s interesting how the security details of Windows ripple down into the whole boot process, making it take twice as long as it should. The net is that while Linux instance boot times on EC2 have come down from a typical 6-8 minutes back in 2006 to under a minute now when using EBS images the Windows boot times are starting out around 10-15 minutes. Hopefully Microsoft can be sensitized to the notion that fast boot times are an important asset in the cloud because they enable a lot of automation that is very painful if one has to wait so long for additional capacity or replacement servers to come online.”

It wasn’t easy — but the end result was worth it, he said.

“I must say that overall I’m very happy with where we’re ending up, which is that we’re getting Windows to a point where it definitely is usable in cloud-style. What I mean by that is not just migrating a set of traditional servers into a equivalent set of servers in the cloud, but rather automating Windows servers for the cloud and leveraging the flexibility of the cloud to enable the business. The friction along the way certainly is higher than with Linux, whether it’s from license questions that crop up everywhere to the mechanics that currently require double-booting, but it is totally possible and Microsoft can, if it focuses on it, make it a lot better yet!”

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Paula Rooney is a Boston-based writer who has followed the tech industry for almost two decades.

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Paula Rooney

Paula Rooney has covered the technology industry for more than 15 years, starting with semiconductor design and mini-computer systems at EDN News and later focused on PC software companies including Microsoft, Lotus, Oracle, Red Hat, Novell and other open source and commercial software companies for CRN and PCWeek. She received a silver award from the American Society of Business Publication Editors in 2005 for her profile on Linus Torvalds and edited and co-authored "Partnering With Microsoft," a book about Microsoft's channel published by CMP Publishing in 2004. Rooney graduated from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1997. In her off time, she enjoys scuba diving, sailing, sun worshipping, running and reading. She resides on the shores of Scituate, Massachusetts.

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  • RE: RightScale: Windows now 'usable' in cloud
    You should fix the title. It's not "Windows" but "Windows Server", and you should throw in the word "virutalized" because on reading the article that's what you're actually talking about.

    BTW, I've been running Windows Server in virtual machines for a while and they never take 10 to 15 minutes to boot. Seems like there's a problem with RightScale's initial solution.
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    18th Aug 2010
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    @PollyProteus: you're right that we should avoid confusion with running people's Windows desktops in the cloud. I don't think that's a good idea so I don't tend to think about it, but that's just my opinion happy.

    Wrt us doing "something wrong", you are comparing apples and pears. I described one of the main reasons for the long boot times in my blog: the double-boot. When you talk about booting a virtualized image you are probably assuming that the image is already provisioned, i.e. the server already has the root filesystem sitting there and immediately starts to boot. In the cloud we measure from the time the user says "launch" after which the assigned server first needs to get a copy of the image. Also, unlike your case, this is a *generic* image from which many servers can be booted, hence the need for sysprep and a reboot, which pretty much doubles the time. This is one area where Windows lags Linux.
    Thanks for the opportunity to clarify this.
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