Christopher Dawson
Yes, war's won
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No, heating up
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
Best Argument: No, heating up
Audience Favored: No, heating up (63%)
Closing Statements
Peace is at hand
Christopher Dawson
The bottom line, though, is that no one is stupid enough to jeopardize end users' ability to watch Netflix or YouTube on their particular browser, OS, or hardware. The ultimate goal, after all, is platform market share. All the rest are just details that will be transparent to most producers and consumers of video (who, in 2012, are often the same people).
The war rages on
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
The real problem is that as we turn more and more to mobile devices fewer and fewer of them will support Flash. That's going to end up vexing some users. They, in turn, are going to yell at the Web site owners and they will response by supporting HTML5 video.
Unfortunately, HTML5 video isn't a real solution. It's a band-aid. Under it, Web developers are going to have to support not one but several different video container and codec formats. What they'd like is a single universal and real Web video format so they won't have to go to all this extra effort. They're not going to get it though. We're no where close to such a standard.
Like it or not the closest we've ever come to such a thing is Adobe Flash. The Web video wars are going to keep going on, though hopefully end-users won't see much of it, for years to come and Flash will still be a player in these battles.
Flash will be around for a long time
Lawrence Dignan
Nothing like Adobe's Flash to line up a few good quotes from our debaters. In this one, we focused on the video wars and Flash's future. In the end, Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols won the debate even with his rather terse answers. On the desktop at least, Flash will be around for a long time.
Talkback
Over?
Not very likely at all.
The war isn't over.
But what is it really?
I can put the same old crap in it or something new.
What am I getting and what is it really buying me?
I hear hooves, smell gun smoke and see a player piano......
The hell with popcorn, I need a drink.
Nobody knows, to be honest....
Nobody knows, to be honest. It's not even a finished spec, so even the W3C, the people who are designing it, don't know what it is.
The war isn't over.
The war has been over for two years now.
flash not dead
It IS only dead, and has been dead for years, to all those people that allowed Apple to amputate their browser-experience. Fat choice they had!
But that reality is distorted. And they are caught in the distortion-field and forced to 'work-around' the inability of their device to access Flash based websites.
Sure enough eventually Flash will have simmered out completely on all wesites. But not today ... not yesterday, and not 3 years ago.
flash wins the war
Yes, flash sucks ...
adobe is working on something better.. :)