Jury sides with Apple over Samsung patent retrial

Jury sides with Apple over Samsung patent retrial

Summary: While a retrial had placed into question how much of the original US$1.05 billion Samsung should pay Apple over patent disputes, Apple has again walked away with most of Samsung's money.

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After a judge threw out out almost half of US$1.05 billion in damages awarded to Apple in its patent spat with Samsung, the subsequent retrial has seen the Cupertino-based company recoup most of what it wanted in compensation.

Earlier this year, US Judge Lucy Koh ordered a retrial of the patent disagreement between Apple and Samsung. Originally, Samsung had been ordered to pay US$1.05 billion in damages, but Koh believed that the jury miscalculated the value of some of the damages payable.

Some US$450 million was placed at the heart of the new trial, with Samsung forced to concede defeat over the US$600 million in damages from the original trial.

According to ZDNet sister site CNET, Samsung argued in the latest trial that it should only have to pay US$52 million, while Apple said the damage done was closer to US$380 million. The disagreements between the two tech giants centred around royalties and lost profits. Whether or not Samsung had infringed upon Apple's patents was not a concern in the retrial as the original trial had already determined this.

The jury in the retrial ruled closer to Apple's figures, however, leaving Samsung to pay up close to US$290 million. Altogether, Samsung would have paid Apple close to US$930 million over the patent dispute.

Samsung will have the opportunity to appeal the retrial, further continuing the dispute that first started in April 2011.

Topics: Apple, Patents, Samsung

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  • Jury sides with Apple

    What a surprise. A jury in Santa Clara County, California sides with Apple, in their fight with Samsung, a foreign interloper. Where is Apple based again? Oh yeah, Santa Clara County.

    Foreign corporations will almost never win in an American court even if they are in the right. And American corporations know it and will use the absurd American justice system to have crippling penalties placed on legitimate competitors. (See Loewen Group as an example.)
    DCD1965
    • Nuts.

      N/T
      kenosha77a
    • Come on, this is pathetic excuse. This case is as clear as day, as blatant

      ... example of IP theft as it can possibly be.
      DDERSSS
    • I could not agree more

      Its like a black man trying to escape the death penalty or a country with a legitimate grievance against Israel. Basically you have no chance.
      I just hope Apple suffers for it's arrogance. Why innovate when you can either buy patents and sue retrospectively, or just claim you invented everything?
      techietubby
      • Why

        Who at Apple would "suffer". Why not hope rapists and terrorists suffer. Why b
        Get bent out of shape over a trial that you are not involved in and are forming your opinions based on what you read from third parties or based on your preferences as a consumer?
        flyguy29
    • clearly not an impartial outcome

      The same case(s) tried in the UK and Germany had much different, neutral, outcomes while the case in Korea was decided in Samsung favor. Pretty much says all you need to know about the Santa Clara court.

      The whole thing is still likely to be tossed as the Patent Office invalidates a key Apple patent.

      Keep burning your bridges Apple.
      greywolf7
      • Clueless...

        The legal frameworks under which allegations of copying can be taken to court...are completely different in those 3 countries so the 3 cases do not bear comparison.
        Of course it was a big win for Apple. Doing nothing means getting nothing. Spending around $10m a year on legal fees...has netted them nearly a billion and imprinted the fact that Samsung illegally copies other companies IP, on half the planet's memories. Going forward, I would suggest they have built bridges whereas Samsung managed to burn bridges they surely needed to retreat over. Apple will marginalise Samsung from its device production - it's already started. Samsung now has the problem of finding other companies to pick up the manufacturing slack vacated by Apple.
        There is a long game that Apple is playing.
        frogspaw
    • Yes

      I agree with your point, but the trial should occur in the country where both companies made most of their revenue in relation to the products being debated. I don't know the answer to that question, but if you are going to do business in the US, be ready to play by those rules or be ready to accept the prejudices that come with doing business in that country.
      flyguy29
  • this situation is

    still surreal. Apple, the judge, the jury clowns are not that abominable as the very legal patent system that makes it all possible.
    However, at least we now know that the rounded corners are much cheaper...
    eulampius
    • Generalizing

      You are taking some bites and being "village people" about your opinions. I don't side with ever and see trials like this in every industry. There is no need to get emotional over the regular practice of competitors suing each other. We can contribute to intelligent opinions and not spin propaganda like we are running for office.
      flyguy29
  • I have to agree with the above,

    The amounts of money are probably considered reasonable for large companies but this same principle is what stifles any smaller companies from entering into the market, pure fear of being sued for extraordinary sums.

    Companies like Apple use the patent and legal system in the US to bully and scare others, I mean rounded corners and overall shape protection is just plain mad.
    As has been said many times, how do car manufacturers distinguish their designs, they would all be in court suing each other all of the time!

    Welcome to relatively free Europe.
    rimini
    • Agree

      Yes, I agree that the patent system is abused regularly in the US. I cannot fault any company (even Apple) for taking advantage for what is within its legal rights to use any means necessary to put down the competition. That being said, I still think Samsung came out the biggest winner. By positioning itself as the antithesis of Apple, they have effectively robbed maker key share from blackberry and every other Android handset manufacturer. Apple is selling as manipulation phones as they could possibly make, which isn't enough to cover the market demand. Samsung's positioning against Apple via smart branding and this high profile trial, has given them positioning over the rest of the competition. The $900 million is a small price to pay for that.
      flyguy29
  • Advertisement

    Best advertisement for Samsung ever. Only reason all the other android phones are battling against Samsung - and they all good. Opposite goes for Apple, don't want to support them anymore, and I've spend way more money on them in the past than on any other device.
    Earlb71
  • Good!

    They copied everything right down to the box and the charger. They owe apple a hell of a lot more for giving then such a huge leg up.
    CowLauncher