Microsoft-sponsored Outercurve Foundation turns to Apache for leadership

Microsoft-sponsored Outercurve Foundation turns to Apache for leadership

Summary: The open-source software foundation announced that Jim Jagielski, co-founder of the Apache Foundation and a Red Hat consulting software engineer, would be taking over as its President.

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Well, this is different. Jim Jagielski, a co-founder of the Apache Software Foundation; a director of the Open Source Initiative; and currently a consulting software engineer for Linux giant Red Hat is now president of the Microsoft-sponsored, open-source friendly  Outercurve Foundation's Board of Directors.

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Jim Jagielski, one of Apache's founders and a well-regarded open-source leader, is now president of the Microsoft-sponsored open-source Outercurve Foundation.

Jagielski takes over the role of President from Sam Ramji of Apigee, who held the position for the past three years. "My plans are to help make Outercurve one of the pre-eminent open-source foundations," said Jagielski in a statement.

He continued, "We hope to be able to provide more guidance and help to a larger group of people, and to expand our presence at related conferences and summits. I feel that Outercurve is not only ideally suited to be the central clearinghouse for open-source governance and community expertise, but is also the only foundation which makes this a prime objective."

Outercurve, formerly Microsoft's CodePlex Foundation, is an independent foundation. Its primary backers remain Microsoft, and starting in 2012, AOL.

The Foundation's charter calls for it to be license- and project-agnostic. Over the years, the group has positioned itself to work with other open-source foundations, rather than compete with them. Microsoft has passed along several of its open-source products and technologies to Outercurve -- including the the Orchard content management system; the NuPack package-management system; and the Mayhem open-source scripting application.

The other new officers include Tony Hey, of Microsoft, as vice president; Sam Ramji, the former president, will stay on as secretary, and Gianugo Rabellino, of Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc., as treasurer.

This move, which brings one of the most respected names in open source to the head of the Outercurve Foundation, can only help the Foundation's reputation in free-software and open-source circles. Maybe, just maybe, Microsoft really is getting serious about open-source software.

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  • ignore the M$ foundation

    unless M$ open sources windoze there. ;)
    LlNUX Geek
  • Unfortunately I can never trust Microsofts involvement in open source.

    I always look with suspicion that they are just thinking of ways to sabotage competing software, rather than contribute to it. Not because they are necessarily bad people, but you just need to look at what their business model is.
    There is a place for proprietary applications but companies like MS should not be involved in open source.
    If MS open sourced windows, and hence they'd have to give it away (but be like Red Hat with paid support), that would be the only way I could then possibly trust them.
    drwong
    • That might be a possible future for them

      People would pay for support from MS and they might make alot more money from it overall... Red hat is a billion dollar organization and its a linux developer!
      Jimster480
  • Another Microsoft Trojan Horse attempt

    As the very apt saying goes .."The proof of the Pudding is in the eating", meaning that the actions and work of the foundation will determine how credible it really is.

    While the foundation itself is supposedly "independent" - to whatever extent is the legal meaning of that claim, there is no reason that "all" the other board Members, who are Microsoft "employees" will not continue the tired, old and draconian routine of Microsoft in copying exactly any procedures, designs, and code of the Apache Software Organization and other projects, and proceed to "patent" these technologies as their own. Neither the Apache Foundation, not any other Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) organization in existence has the astronomical financial or legal resources to fight such a sick attempt in the long run, possibly 4 - 5 years or more.

    It is difficult to understand or rationalize why so many people in the FOSS arena are that naive to believe - without any verifiable proof of support what-so-ever - that Microsoft is not the enemy of FOSS, with the company actually stating - according to every credible technology report - that they will "embrace, extend and extinguish" all FOSS competition.
    wanderson
  • their history is against them. Pt1

    Doing this in blocks because zdnet filter has had a lobotomy.

    I don't recall an apology from Balmer for calling the GPL a cancer.
    And every previous involvement in OSS seems to be as a result of discovering that locking out OSS hurts their own back pocket as companies end up choosing products that don't.
    (like VMware instead of hyperV) and so Microsoft starts pounding out kernel contribs not to better linux, but to help their own product support. IMHO they'd also like it very much if the GPL went away in exchange for BSD type licenses that encourage taking, but not sharing.
    frankieh
  • their history is against them. Pt2

    They have to play nice now, because others like Apple and Google are encroaching on their territory and MS has not been anywhere near as successful at encroaching into theirs... so now they need to appear to be a team player.. But should we just forget the past 30 years of Balmer and Gates run Microsoft in exchange for the touchy feely caring Microsoft they want you to see now?

    If they ever get a monopoly in search or mobile computing, do any of you really think they won't go back to being the Microsoft we all know and remember?
    frankieh
  • Apologies.....

    I don't feel comfortable with Microsoft entering the Open Source world......period. They have a track record, as some others have pointed out, and it seems that every company that gets too close to M$ ends up being BOUGHT by M$! I would hate to read a year or three later that this "OuterCurve" has taken over the Hadoop project...or OpenStack...or anything else for that matter......nope...i don't trust them...so my apologies if you think me rude to disregard their attemps at becoming more "open source" friendly.....seems to me they're just looking for some friends since their failed attempt at Windows 8.....they don't want to appear desperate...so they team up with some open source offerings because right now anything labeled "open source" draws attention......
    Knighthawk5193
  • Outercurve: Where The "Microsoft Open Source" Oxymoron Goes To Die

    Whatever happened to IronPython? IronRuby? NuGet? All open-source projects started by Microsoft, around which it spectacularly failed to build any kind of community at all. And without an active community, an open-source software project is dead.

    Apache seems to be becoming a dumping ground for moribund open-source projects: first Oracle, and now Microsoft, are passing their leftovers to it.
    ldo17
  • Microsoft to opensource

    is like a cow to ice skating.
    eulampius
    • cont'd

      likewise, a cow to opensource is like Microsoft to ... opensource.
      eulampius