Did 'WE' also not have sex with that woman? Or are we only "quite" sure that "we" didn't have sex with that woman?
"Thus, we're focusing on the things that are not open to interpretation and are indisputable--"
Right... indisputable..... so Mark couldn't simply by lying, very BADLY or anything...
"Mark could not have given interest in a company that didn't exist or an idea he had not thought of yet and, even if he could, the statute of limitations has expired."
So cutting through all that nonsense, he DID sign it, he THINKS the statute of limitations means the contract isn't valid, AND he claims the idea followed later than claimed? Because all the fuzzy wording and get out clauses suggest exactly that.
Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
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Facebook said in a statement Friday that a lawsuit from a man who claims he owns 84 percent of the company is based on a contract that was likely "forged."
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Facebook said in a statement Friday that a lawsuit from a man who claims he owns 84 percent of the company is based on a contract that was likely "forged." It's an unusually forceful denial coming from a company that prefers not to talk about pending litigation.
A Facebook lawyer had initially said that the company was "unsure" whether CEO Mark Zuckerberg had ever signed an agreement with the plaintiff, New York resident Paul Ceglia, to help build something called "The Face Book" in 2003 and in which Ceglia would have an 84 percent stake today. Documents provided by Ceglia indicated that something that appears to be Zuckerberg's signature does indeed appear on a contract. But in his high-profile "ABC World News" interview on Wednesday night, Zuckerberg said that "I think we were quite sure that we did not sign a contract that says that they have any right to ownership over Facebook."
Now, an official Facebook statement backs him up and goes so far as to say the company believes the contract is probably a phony.
For more on this story, read Facebook says Ceglia contract was likely 'forged' on CNET News.
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guihombre26th Jul 2010 -
RE: Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
Hmmm...I *think* I'm sure. Maybe, just maybe, this is certain. I think.
In other words, Zuckerberg didn't say anything. At all.
clfitz26th Jul 2010 -
Since when is "likely" a forceful word?
"I did not" or "I never" are forceful words
"It's likely", when referring to something that's either true or false is a very weak statement.
Zuckerberg either knows he signed it, Knows he didn't sign it, or cannot remember if he did.
If he cannot remember, that's OK, he can say, "I have no recollection but I likely didn't sign it".
If he signed it but now he wants to steam roll with lawyers then he can use "likely" and still be legally safe.
The truth is out there but we will "likely" never know it
rarsa26th Jul 2010 -
The downside of being polite.
I have a bad habit of phrasing things badly. For instance, if my boss were to ask me if I told him not to sign the contract, I might say "I think so." when I mean to say "I sure did, dumbass." It's a bad habit that I'm working to overcome.
garthasuarus@...26th Jul 2010 -
RE: Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
@garthasuarus@...
in many environments, it's a requirement to be not quite definite unless you have a mountain of hard evidence to back you up... anything less and you are accused of making things up without proof...
sad state of affairs when the entire concept of "in good faith" is grounds to be sued
erik.soderquist27th Jul 2010 -
RE: Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
In this interview Zuckerberg also speaks of being wanted on the death sentence list in Pakistan:
http://bit.ly/MZuckNPR
NewsGallery26th Jul 2010 -
RE: Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
Well I am sure some top hand writing experts, FBI will have a few laying around will be able to validate or invalidate the signator pretty quickly.
If this true then the case should be dismissed in the next couple of weeks. I suspect however it will not be an this is just bluster from the Facebook lawyers trying to scare away the claiment. The key reason, they should/would of called in the law agencies aka FBI, an they would of forbid any such statements until there investigation is completed .
Knowles226th Jul 2010 -
RE: Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
"The company *believes* the contract is *probably* a phony." Talk about weasel words. If someone says to me "This is your signature," I will either say, "Yes, it is," or "No, that's not my signature." I won't say that "I believe it's probably a phony.''
Therefore, in my humble opinion, it's probably a real signature on the document.
MrLucasBrice26th Jul 2010 -
Not nessessarily...
@MrLucasBrice
Its a little simple to say, would either know its my signature or not if someone asks about your signature. A well forged signature attached to a type of document you frequently sign may not be such an easy signature to dismiss.
ON THE OTHER HAND-
Unless Mark Zuckerberg had a real bad habit of signing a lot of these type of documents one would fully expect that he would recall signing such a significant document.ocument. Its a pretty important document, its well beyond the monthly rent check so to speak.
The mere fact Mark Zuckerberg cant say "I never signed that kind of document in my life" I would expect only leads to the conclusion that he must have signed something very much like that document at one time. Even giving him the full benefit of doubt would still result in him having signed a document at least very similar to that and perhaps that very one. The only question would be is "is this the actual document he did sign". In a case like this saying anything less then "its 100% a forgery because I never signed such a document" actually means at least "I did sign something very much like that once but I don't think this is it".
Obvious and interesting.
Cayble26th Jul 2010 -
RE: Facebook says Zuckerberg signature likely 'forged'
Ok I'm confused. I thought mark stole both the idea and the code from Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss, and Divya Narendra. Then he worked on the idea with Eduardo Saverin, but also cut him out of the action. So where does paul Ceglia fit in?
roger15126th Jul 2010
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