particle colliders and whatnot- how about: let's try living our
own lives and find out something useful once they've RUN an
experiment!
It's difficult enough dealing with the paramount necessities
and the trivialities of our own lives- why bother to focus on
others'?
There's no time for such insignificance.
Large Hadron Collider gets fresh power supply
Summary
Cern is planning to build a new computing hub in France, because its existing one is sucking the power grid dry.
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The lab cracking data from the Cern Large Hadron Collider experiment needs a new computing hub because its existing one is sucking the power grid dry.
It's a move that's been prompted by the energy demands of the computer center at Cern's servers: the facility can draw a maximum of 2.5 megawatts of energy, yet the task of powering and cooling its massive server racks is already taking it close to that ceiling.
The center's 8,000 servers--which house about 40,000 processor cores--now consume the same amount of power and generate the same amount of heat as about 2,500 hairdressers' shops.
Now Cern is planning to build a new center in France, in addition to the existing center, just over the border from its base in Geneva, Switzerland, linked directly to a power station. Jean Michel Jouanigot, head of network services for Cern, said the new center will provide enough power to increase its processing capacity between five and tenfold.
A large part of the existing computer center in Geneva is devoted to processing and storing the 15 petabytes of data that will be produced by the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) particle accelerator each year, as well as being the main hub for the LHC's grid of more than 100,000 processors.
Jouanigot said: "The biggest problem that we have is power and computer efficiency. We are constantly trying to get the same computing power for the same energy consumption.
"It is running at maximum capacity: the Swiss and the French networks here can hardly provide us with any more power.
"The solution is to move it to the French side where the advantage would be it is closer to the power station with a high power line coming direct from the French supplier."
Jouanigot said that if the computer center gets the go ahead, it will be up and running in about four years.
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Anomaly1128th Oct 2008 -
RE: Large Hadron Collider gets fresh power supply
i always love the irony, we can spend hundreds of millions on a project like this that will cause Global warming and increase our energy consuption higher than it needs to be therefore burning up fuel faster.
Did no one think of using this money to help protect the enviroment, mabye trying to find a better fuel source or improve one say hydrogen
Kidmenot8th Oct 2008 -
RE: Large Hadron Collider gets fresh power supply
This project has evil all over it. I can imagine
James Bond infiltrating the underground Hadron
collider to save the world from being destroyed by a
black hole.
But even if a man made black hole doesn't kill us, how
about the billions spent on the project, and the
amount of power it guzzles.
Instead of learning more about how the world was
created, how about figuring out how the world is going
to end, and how to prevent this. All Hadron is doing
is assisting with our destruction.
neonDog8th Oct 2008 -
Response to neonDog
You have an interesting "take" on the Collider - not the typical pencil-head. I don't know if the project is evil per-se. Like a lot of things with Man's handprints on it, it can be good or evil.
I think you would make an excellent Philosophy or Theology student. First thing I would recommend would be to learn about Cosmology. Dictionary.com defines it as: ?noun
1. the branch of philosophy dealing with the origin and general structure of the universe, with its parts, elements, and laws, and esp. with such of its characteristics as space, time, causality, and freedom.
2. the branch of astronomy that deals with the general structure and evolution of the universe.
Then I would invite you to interact with my blog:
http://waybreaker.blog.homepagenow.com/blog.shtml
All the Best
beledk13th Oct 2008 -
RE: Large Hadron Collider gets fresh power supply
First, many comments here about either micro black holes or other things, highly impossible to certainly impossible. It would take far more mass and power to cause a black hole of any size. Second, the facility itself runs extremely cool, far past freezing, and as close to absolute zero they can get. So the facility itself isn't actually hot, but it does require alot of electricity to keep it cool. Which I hope you mean the power plants are the ones contributing, in which case, jump their bones, not the people running the facility. Finally, if your wondering why they put so much money in, there's an extremely large amount of personal investors including scientist and people who feel they'll benefit from it. Not a huge amount is gov't, but the gov't must show us their spending. Also, knowing how the universe started, and the REAL interest of what sub particles there are and the further composition of that. We're discovering how far we can go into what makes what. Such as what is the reason things HAVE mass. Which unless your skipping to the end of this message, you cannot predict an ending without knowing the beginning. How can you tell someones dominant sickness without knowing the first symptoms and their medical history?
Thank you, I've been mean enough.
Flawed9th Oct 2008 -
RE: Large Hadron Collider gets fresh power supply
I am amazed that such a big proyect did not include a bigger generator or any kind of power supply that could get everythig working fine......
calaloramos14th Oct 2008
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