Installing SUSE
Summary: Several photos and comments on installation of OpenSUSE 10.2 on my laptop.
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If at all possible, let SUSE configure your networking for you (choose "Use the following configuration").Note again that SUSE, like Ubuntu and many recent distros, found all of the networking equipment with no user intervention.
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You can right-click on the button and select the KDE start menu instead.
Bonita pero sosa
La instalaci?n no es tan asi cuando quieres preservar tu sistema operativo, o cuando tu red no tiene el dhcp por defecto.
De todos modos el OpenSuse 10.2, esta bastante maduro, y me impresiono aun mas de lo que lo hizo su predecesor Suse 6 hace ya 5 a?os.
Habria que mencionar que la flaqueza del OpenSuse esta en su instalador de paquetes (yast2), parece que la tendencia ya no esta yendo por la generaci?n de RPMs.
A quick translation/paraphrase
To paraphrase, it's a pretty description, but a bit loose and vague. I made a lot of assumptions, including that users would have DHCP and would not want to preserve their old OS. However, SUSE seems very mature and he is impressed. He also noticed that SUSE seems to be getting away from the generation of RPMs in its installer (Yast).
He is correct on all points. I took a pretty high level approach since the series of articles to which this relates on education.zdnet.com really are directed at new users. Hopefully more advanced users can still make use of this for training, while others who might be considering a switch can get a glimpse of what they're in for.
Thanks for the comment...
Chris Dawson
SUSE INQUIRY
I'm looking for a linux distro that can be easily setup on an HP PAVILION DV6000...does anyone know of one?
Sort of...
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Broadcom_%28BCM4306%29_WLAN_Installation_under_SUSE
Unfortunately, since they are not open source, you have to jump through some serious hoops.
BTW, these images are from my HP Pavilion 9000T, but I have the intel wireless.
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After having tried many many distributions over the last 6 years, it was openSuse 10.2 where I settled even after testing more.
What with setting up multi-media and virtual machines on all the various distros and looking for solutions and answers on them, openSuse from a newbie stand point is less complicated and more friendly. The support is less esoteric, you're not told over and over again to RTFM the answers are definitely less ambiguous and the group (users) are more helpful.
One has to consider other factors when choosing a "new" operating system beyond how it looks and behaves, what if you have a problem, how easy is it to find answers, do you have to pay for support do you have a choice. I'm sure if anyone reading this, thinks back a couple of years working with less than friendly installations of Debian or Red Hat and looking for answers only finding the remarks - read, read , read as the solution to the question being asked. That used to be the solution to any problem encountered in say 1984 when people made a lot of money in the mystique of computers.
Hopefully we've moved on and have become less aloof about what we know, even in the early days my small business made more by informing my customers so THEY wanted more and appreciated not being kept in the dark.
I prefer to help people rather than baffle them, it's harder on the ego but infinitely more satisfying and even a company that I cursed in the early days, Novel seems to be on the right track and Suse is a good start.
P.S. For anyone that knows, and anyone that sweat by "glass" check out Ruby, talk about cool.
I noticed some things....
AND how does one set up a dual boot system preserving their existing OS?
Can you do a pictoral of what 'cruising' around [b]IN[/b] SUSE looks like sometime in the near future?
Late at night and bandwidth-dependent
The longest part actually was the online updates. This process wouldn't be quick, regardless, but I've been having problems with my cable modem recently and don't have the bandwidth to which I've become accustomed.
I will cover dual-boot next week sometime and will post an image gallery from OpenSUSE Monday. Good suggestions.
Thanks,
Chris Dawson
Thanks for such a quick response!...
I have a cable modem, too so I know how tempermental they can be. On a hand full of occasions in the last decade I've had to have the cable company ping one to see that it's borked so I can exchange it for a new one.
ANYWAY, eventually I want to dual boot with one of those two flavors to do everything with that I don't absolutely HAVE to have Windoze to do. At that, I'm going to learn how to do without Windoze altogether some day. That's why I asked.
BTW: the bit about the coffee was really raspberry juice being sprayed your way! I don't partake of caffeine; it wires me too much! LOL! :^0 Therefore, I found all the coffee breaks amusing. Hey, do you remember the Garfield cartoon where Garfield wakes up on the wrong side of his bed and scrrrreams "COFFEE!!!"????? That was in the KC Star YEARS ago. I had it posted on the fridge for my late hubby...LOL ]:)
Install Time
If setting up a server, it is shorter as you tend to only install the packages you want and is often on very generic hardware. Desktops and laptop tend to be a little tricker. Takes about the same amout of time to install as Windows Vista. However if you are doing two or three the same, then you just tell the system to make a config file at the end of the install, then your next install can use the file to install exactly the same way without asking questions, or you can attach the drive for the second machine and duplicate the install using a "dd" command (disk duplicate - can do a block level copy like ghost does, but it's free and part of the OS)
Preserving the OS is easy, if you dont have free space on the drive, it will ask to shrink the detected NTFS or FAT partitions to create room, but I have found a couple of times that the partitions can't shrink them and the install bombs, but the original partitions aare still OK. You can always install a second HDD very weasily and install on that. The boot loader will know where each OS is on the disk. the "/" partition doesnt have to be on the primary drive, just the bootloader. SATA makes this much easier than with the older Primary/Secondary IDE channel Master/Slave jumper setup.
That Matches My Experience!
Suse was a dream
so far ive installed it on my laptop (first), a remote server shortly there after, and just yesterday on my desktop. Ive had many different experiences and one of them is to ditch yast as fast as you possibly can and get smart. Smart is the best, fastest, and simplest package manager.
suse is alright for servers. Yast is pretty good server wise especially when mangung the firewall. Once again DITCH yast and zen for smart.
but my best experience was yesterday.
i have a windows desktop and was considering going with linux instead. The cool thing about suse is how it makes dual booting so frikin easy. My intent wasnt even to dual boot because i read so many articles about how difficult it is.
suse did everything for me without me lifting a finger. It shrinked the windows part o
Radeon X-1600 on OpenSuSe 10.4
I have tried to use 10.4 open version, the same boards of instaling like 10.2, but got one little problem it was VESA VGA Driver, whitchone is the onlyone and default for the all Radeons x-1xxx. I have asked Suse providers also ATI providers how to make the VGA work... answer from Suse was: ATI aren't realised driver.... ATI answer: we never realise driver for the 10.4 Suse, use older version.... So what needs to do....? bought Vista and angain I'm microsft user... it sucks...
If anyone have ideas how to resolve problem With radeon X-1600(mobile) post to e-mail: andriuscerniauskas@gmail.com... ty to all readers
Would have been cheaper to replace the video card.
A new Nvidia card with much better desktop graphics support in Suse (and most other 'nixes I guess) only costs NZ$85
My rule of thumb - choose the software that does the job, choose the OS that runs that software the best, then buy hardware to run that OS the best.
Doing it this way I always have happy clients, and reliable gear and good support from the vendors.
Would I attempt to run Active Directory and Exchange 2003 under lunux? No, just like I would run bind, syslog daemons, apache, sendmail etc on Linux, even though Win32 binaries exist for most of these apps, they are more common on 'nix, and issues and configurations better documented.
Addendum
If you want a media player, buy an orginal xbox and chip it and run XBox Media Centre (I really wish this one could come out as MS signed code for everyone else to run unmodifed). Better value than just about any other tv-top PC out there. A local supplier here sells them for NZ$300 already chipped 8)
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