Samsung cancels plans for Windows RT tablet in the US

Samsung cancels plans for Windows RT tablet in the US

Summary: I like using my Microsoft Surface RT and find the included apps and 3rd party apps meet my needs. It's a bit concerning to me that Samsung doesn't see enough value in the platform to launch a device.

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Samsung cancels plans for Windows RT release in the US

I thoroughly enjoy using my Microsoft Surface RT and never even considered other RT devices. According to CNET, Samsung won't be bringing their Samsung Ativ Tab to the US due to demand not being as high as hoped and the amount of education Samsung believes they have to invest in to inform consumers about the benefits of Windows RT. While it isn't good news to see manufacturers limiting the rollout of Windows RT, Microsoft may not mind selling more of their own Surface RT devices.

With the Surface Pro coming out soon, I think the educational effort would be even more difficult as consumers, and retail sales associates, still seem to be confused about Windows RT and Windows 8. The Microsoft Surface RT hardware is some of the best I have ever tried on a computing device and its not like there needs to be a huge assortment of RT devices to satisfy consumers. While I understand that the Surface RT is not for everyone, including my ZDNet associate James Kendrick, I previously explained in a post why I find it desirable and think it would have been nice to check out what Samsung came up with. Samsung stated they are going to see how the market develops for RT and they are not permanently shelving their plans.

It's a bit concerning to me that Samsung doesn't see enough value to enter the RT market since they are doing extremely well with Android and I would think they wouldn't mind shelling out some cash to support a new platform if they saw real value in it. Asus, Dell, and Lenovo still have RT products and I think 2013 will be a defining year for Microsoft and its Windows RT platform.

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  • If the past has proven one thing ...

    It is that one can never come too late to the party. There is no such thing a a Johnny-come-lately.
    If Samsung discovers that Windows RT products sell well or even great ... fine. Let's enter the stage and issue some cool products.

    Success or failure never depend on when you come but what you bring with you.
    EnticingHavoc
    • Not Sure the Past Really Proved This

      While Windows RT and Windows Phone are small markets at this point, Samsung has pretty much given up on both - and I don't think history suggests they can re-enter at any point in time. Rather, in the Windows Phone market, it's all Nokia now, and some HTC, and Samsung would have to put up a monstrous effort to not just provide hardware that matches their competitors, but overcome the advantage Nokia enjoys now of truly supporting a platform. I'm pretty confident from what I'm hearing from other Windows Phone users that they are well aware who they can look to for support for the long haul vs. who is just trying to make a few easy dollars on the side.
      WebSiteManager
    • THAT'S BECAUSE...

      Windows RT is the most ill conceived OS in tech history.

      * A mobile OS from Microsoft that looks similar to Windows but can't run Windows apps

      * Costs as much as an iPad but has 1/3 the utility value

      * Watered down, semi-touch version of Office, without Outlook (like selling a car with no steering wheel)

      * No GPS, no 3/4G, no apps, cheap keyboard that actually costs a fortune, poor speakers

      Gee... I wonder why it's not selling well.
      orandy
      • You getting paid overtime, Shill?

        Just curious as here you are yet again bitchin' and moaning about something you swore doesn't affect you in any way shape or form.

        I really find that rather odd, IMHO.

        Not selling well? Now that's funny, I heard it's the best selling Win 8 tablet.

        orandy - you're not lying again, are you? ;)
        William Farrel
        • Careful what names you call people

          I know I'm not the only one with suspicions about you. I'm not making any accusations, mind you, as there's no direct evidence; but you're the one who brought up the subject.
          John L. Ries
          • And I have my suspicions about you

            So? It doesn't change how I counter your points. Your points are either good or bad. They can be countered or they can't. That you may be a paid shill doesn't change anything.
            toddbottom3
          • Someone recently accused you...

            ...of being the same person as William Farrel. I've never believed it because you're a lot more entertaining (but maybe you're a Non Zealot who's let his horns out).

            Care to confirm or deny?

            Personally, I think accusing people of being shills is rather silly, because there's no relevant evidence, and it's hard to tell the difference between a paid fanboy and one who works for free (but I do have my suspicions). Besides, if you really are a shill, I'm not just communicating with you, I'm communicating with MS (and how can that be a bad thing?).

            But those who live in glass houses...
            John L. Ries
          • So it is okay as long as you phrase it right?

            Accusing someone of being a shill is "wrong". But saying "I have my suspicions" is good? Okay. I have my suspicions that you are a paid shill. I don't care though. It changes absolutely nothing in how I respond to you.

            "Care to confirm or deny?"

            I'm not going to answer for exactly the reason you posted: there's no relevant evidence. Those who want to believe I'm William Farrell / LD / NonZealot / "insert other names that have, at some point, clearly written something that couldn't be countered" will believe it no matter how passionately I deny it. I can't provide a single shred of relevant evidence to convince anyone.

            John, I simply encourage you to respond to my posts (or don't) without any consideration of who I may (or may not) be. It actually isn't that difficult. I make no assumptions about who you are. It simply wouldn't change how I respond.

            Sincerely,
            Todd Bottom
            toddbottom3
          • I don't normally mention any suspicions...

            ...as they're not relevant. But Bill accusing someone else of being a shill just struck me as totally incongruous. Probably, I shouldn't have said anything.
            John L. Ries
          • todd

            Im supposedly one of your multiple incarnations
            Master Wayne
          • The whole paid shill argument is a non point

            With the size of MS's advertising budget, and the huge gamble they made on re-imagining Windows, it only makes sense for them to have people on the payroll with the job of following reviews to counter misinformation, talk up the selling points, and generally do what shills, tech evangelists, and spin doctors do. it's a standard part of marketing in the Internet age. In the end,though, the product actually has to offer some real or perceived value. The Windows brand has a huge value, but the problems with Win 8 and RT are damaging the brand rather than building on it. Shilling won't change that. Improving the product will.
            krossbow
          • Precisely!

            Also, the childish name calling resorted to by so many of the MS shills, trolls and fanatics on here only damages the brand even further.

            If MS products were HALF as good as these drooling sycophants would like to think, then it would be game, set & match to Microsoft and the competition wouldn't even get a look-in.
            rahbm
        • Windows fanboy

          You are no different to your hero Ballmer. He throws chairs and your spit dummies. Window fanboys are so fake
          Van Der
        • RE: "Now that's funny, I heard it's the best selling Win 8 tablet."

          Not saying this is the case but if all the rest are selling 5 units and it sells 10 it's the best selling. Just saying that being the best selling doesn't mean it's selling well.
          non-biased
        • Look in the mirror!

          There's the shill.
          rahbm
      • Wrong on all accounts...

        "A mobile OS from Microsoft that looks similar to Windows but can't run Windows apps"

        Windows RT and Windows 8 look so completely different from what people normally expect from Windows. It's probably the single biggest complaint people have about Windows 8. Now you're trying to claim they look too similar?\

        "Costs as much as an iPad but has 1/3 the utility value"

        1/3 utility value... let's see.

        +Every Windows RT tablet includes at least a full size USB port an some from of video out. iPad has none included. Every Windows RT tablet I know of has a micro SD card. iPad has none.
        +Windows RT is compatible with printers, game pads, mice, keyboards, scanners, USB hubs, cameras, phones, USB drives, ethernet dongles, portable harddrives, and a whole lot of other hardware thanks to its USB port. iPad, some printers that support its terrible wifi printing and that's about it.
        +Windows RT has programs 99% compatible with Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Onenote built in. iPad, nothing built in. Windows RT
        +Windows RT has the ability to run multiple user accounts. iPad, only 1.
        +Windows RT has the ability to run multiple apps side by side. Can only use one app at a time on iPa.
        +Windows RT has a full open file system for transferring files over the network and managing files on the device. iPad has a closed, inaccesible file system.
        +Windows RT can be docked at a desktop for use with a keyboard+mouse+monitor. iPad, not so much. Doesn't even support a mouse once you dock it, and apps/OS doesn't scale to widescreen monitors.

        I could go on, but I have the rest of your post to address. So where again are you getting this 1/3 utility from?

        "Watered down, semi-touch version of Office, without Outlook (like selling a car with no steering wheel)"

        As opposed to absolutely no office with iPad? With Office RT you get 99% functionality/compatibility of full desktop office. Even the best office suites for iPad probably have 10% of the features you get with Office RT.


        "No GPS, no 3/4G, no apps, cheap keyboard that actually costs a fortune, poor speakers"

        Windows RT supports GPS and 3G/4G just fine. The Dell XPS 10 for intance has this hadware. As far as apps, there are currently almost 40,000 and the store is growing rapidly. Finally, with respect to keyboard and speakers, are you talking about the Surface hardware specifically? What does that have to do with Windows RT as an OS? Other manufacturers make Widows RT tablets you know.
        ModernMech
        • Excellent

          response to the above comment!!
          roteague
        • Desperate comments

          call for desperate times...Win RT is the least supported OS in history. One USB port does not equal instant support for every USB device on earth.

          Other points are design decisions, not lack of support. Lack of filesystem, lack of a keyboard. Just like dropping floppy drive, ipad dropped the keyboard instead of a laughable tweener "touch" keyboard (whatever is a touch keyboard is). If you still want a keyboard, there are tons of alternatives for iPad.

          iPad has tens of office suites, many more powerful than watered down office-ish apps on RT.

          You think 40.000 apps are a lot, don't you? Try to find a train sim on RT, for example. I did. How many are there on RT? Zero? Try to find my favorite local newspaper's app. Try to find my bank's app. You can't? Too bad...

          You're using Chrome on your PC or Mac, and on your smartphone. You want all your bookmarks, open tabs, passwords etc synced to your RT. Oh, sorry, you can't... You have this weirdo of IE only.

          You put it on your lap, and... it falls over. You put it on your desk, too bad, the angle is not right. You try to correct it, oh no you can't. Because there is a rigid picture frame stand in place of an adjustable leg.

          This can go on and on. Trying to best iPad with a version 1.0 of a strange tablet with two surfaces is funny at best. (One is the keyboard, with a touchpad, mind you. Wasn't this a touch tablet?)
          herrdana
          • Not necessarily

            You were discussing "utility". You may not consider these features "utility" but other people obviously do - one of reasons most Android tablets offer the same features.
            roteague
          • I'm not the one looking desperate

            "One USB port does not equal instant support for every USB device on earth."

            I didn't say "every USB device on earth." I gave a list of devices I know Windows RT to support. There are devices in every category I listed in my last post which work with Surface RT. You want to talk about lack of hardware support? Look at iPad. Can't even support something as basic as a USB drive out of the box.

            "Other points are design decisions, not lack of support. Lack of filesystem, lack of a keyboard."

            Just because the lack is a design choice doesn't make it any less of a lack. Those things are still missing from iPad, and if I want them, I don't have access to them. Less utility for me.

            And yes, there are many keyboards available for iPad (as long as you want to use bluetooth which consumes battery.) But how about mice? Game controllers? Wired printers? Can you sync your iPhone with your iPad. No.

            "iPad has tens of office suites, many more powerful than watered down office-ish apps on RT."

            You think Office RT is watered down compared to the stuff you find on iPad? Office RT is missing a very small feature set compared to x86 Office... mostly advanced scripting support.

            Here is a list of every feature missing from Office RT: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/home-and-student/office-home-student-rt-preview-FX103210361.aspx

            There's about 14. How many thousands of features are there between Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and OneNote? This leaves you with 99% Office. Compare this to the anemic office suites available from the competition. They're not watered-down; they're just water.

            "You think 40.000 apps are a lot, don't you? Try to find a train sim on RT, for example. I did. How many are there on RT? Zero? Try to find my favorite local newspaper's app. Try to find my bank's app. You can't? Too bad..."

            Yes, 40,000 apps is a lot, but of course there are going to be gaps as the store was launched only two months ago. My bank is on there. My favorite newspaper is on there. My favorite game is on there. Just because yours are missing doesn't make the OS "the most ill-conceived OS in tech history" as the comment I originally responded to asserted. All this means is that in its current state, it doesn't fit your particular personal needs.

            "You put it on your lap, and... it falls over. You put it on your desk, too bad, the angle is not right. You try to correct it, oh no you can't. Because there is a rigid picture frame stand in place of an adjustable leg."

            Again, like the original posters you are conflating one particular hardware package with an entire OS and ecosystem. Surface is one of many Windows RT tablets. It has a kickstand. Others don't. Don't like the kickstand? There are other tablets without one. Personally I appreciate the option, where iPad offers exactly one hardware package, take it or leave it. Want a built in kickstand? Too bad. Want a different material than aluminum? Too bad. Want a different color? For a while there you only had one choice, now they doubled the selection!

            "Trying to best iPad with a version 1.0 of a strange tablet with two surfaces is funny at best. (One is the keyboard, with a touchpad, mind you. Wasn't this a touch tablet?)"

            Sure maybe Surface and Windows RT is general is not enough to topple the iPad. It has its shortcomings. But laughing at the kickstand and keyboard is being pretty myopic. Take a look at Amazon's most popular tablet accessories. It's overwhelmingly cases that can prop the tablet up like a kickstand, keyboards, or a combination keyboard+kickstand case. You don't like the surface? That's fine. But there is a real market out there for it and other Windows RT tablets.

            iPad is on top now, but the biggest point it has going for it is the app store. By the latest Apple figures for tablet apps, the Windows store is currently growing faster, and that's with the miniscule market share it currently has. When the app lead is gone, and people realize how capable Windows RT actually is, how long will that dominance last?
            ModernMech