The love affair with Windows 8-powered hybrids is over before it started

Summary: Microsoft built Windows 8 around the new touch user interface, but it seems that consumers are quite attached to their keyboards and mice.

Windows 8 is built around the premise that people want to interact with their PC through touch, but deep discounts of Windows 8-powered hybrids at the Microsoft Store suggest that the love affair with these devices is already at an end.

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The discounts are highlighted on ZDNet's sister site CNET, and they're very deep discounts indeed, with the price of the Toshiba Satellite U925T-S2130 Convertible Ultrabook slashed by almost 35 percent. No matter how you look at it, cuts like that are huge, and are bound to raise a few eyebrows.

This isn't the only sign that things aren't going well with the Windows 8 sales machine. Last month, IDC analyst Bob O'Donnell told CNET that Windows 8 PC sales had "horribly stalled", and IDC expected computer shipments to fall by 1.3 percent this year, after it had initially predicted a 2.8 percent rise.

And this decline comes on top of an even more precipitous 3.7 percent fall that the industry experienced in 2012.

And I'm hearing unofficial conformation of this from sources within OEMs, too. The hope that Windows 8 would reinvigorate PCs sales has evaporated, and makers are now resigned to the fact that desktops and notebooks are going to be sitting around gathering dust as consumers choose instead to spend their money on smartphones and tablets.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again — touch on traditional desktops and notebooks is a solution looking for a problem to fix. Microsoft had touch support built into Windows for years, and consumers didn't care about it then, and it seems that outside of devices such as Microsoft's own Surface, people don't care about it now, either.

As far as new classes of devices are concerned — devices such as hybrids and convertibles — the problem with these is that they're embryonic. While people were fast to embrace devices such as the iPhone and iPad, consumers haven't been so enthusiastic when it comes to tweaked versions of PCs. To most people, a PC is either a desktop or a notebook, and it seems that devices that blur the lines between desktops, notebooks, and tablets are making people nervous.

Microsoft bet the farm on touch with Windows 8, and so far it seems that the bet hasn't paid off. While I think that Microsoft certainly needed a response to iOS and Android, shoehorning an entire touch-based user interface into an operating system primarily designed to be driven by a keyboard and mouse made little sense to me at the time it was unveiled, and it seems that it makes little sense to buyers either. Windows RT makes sense — if Microsoft can convince people to buy the hardware — as does a touch mode for the full version, but forcing the interface on everyone was a step too far. No one in their right mind wants to trade a new user interface in exchange for a massive workflow hit.

Just to be clear here, though, PC sales were stagnating even before Windows 8 came on the scene, so the operating system is not entirely to blame for the state of the market now, but the operating system did nothing to help revive the industry.

The PC is dying, and it doesn't look like Windows 8 is going to save it.

Topics: Windows 8, Hardware, PCs

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  • Oh no Adrian, don't you listen to Toddbottom3 and his 1000 alters?

    They are convinced if you have a mouse and keyboard you love having to use shortcuts to use the touch screen or if you need to use the desktop to hit the start button on the keyboard.


    According to them if you drive a car and they switch to square wheels you should be forced to drive on the roads with them because if you don't you're an idiot.
    toddbottom7
    • Apple shares are crashing again...

      Go play with your toy, CB7
      Owllll1net
      • Go play with your 1000 other alters LOSER

        How many L's you got in your name now?

        FOUR?? Soon to be five for being canned again for being an idiot.
        toddbottom7
        • Ipads are thrown out of enterprise and replaced with Surface.

          .
          Owllll1net
          • Proof? Post proof other than some crap rag you read it on

            .
            toddbottom7
          • toddbottom7 Surface RT is on close out at Best Buy

            Those Metro flashing tiles and those piss poor apps from the appt store killed it. Best Buy passed on free upgrades to Blue because of pricing problems..............Oh wellf
            Over and Out
          • OH NO...

            http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/15/microsoft-surface-rt-pro-estimated-to-have-sold-15m-units-total

            I googled Surface Pro replaces iPad, went back six months, found nothing in the way of articles, so once again you FAIL ToddAlter3.
            toddbottom7
          • My company of 3,500...

            ...employees is currently testing the Surface Pro against our install base of some 400 applications we use throughout the organization.

            In cases where here are no conflicts with outdated software we will be replacing desktops, laptops, and iPads with Surface Pros, significantly reducing hardware, maintenance, and support costs.

            A year or so ago when I first mentioned the Surface Pro to our IT team they dismissed it, saying they had spent far too much time and effort trying to get iDevices to "just work" to abandon the effort. Today they have completely changed their mind and see the significantly superior offering of the Surface Pro.

            This is the reality that you don't get to read about in the click-bait press.
            jmagzdnet
          • iPad -> Surface Pro

            Our enterprise (a fairly large one) is absolutely interested in replacing iPads with Surface Pros. We're currently in the testing phase.

            If the Surface pans out, we'll gladly replace our consumer-grade iPads with them, since they're a true enterprise device.
            ParrotHead_FL
          • What does "pan out" mean?

            Probably means "what IT wants because it's easier for lazy IT people who need to justify their existence" rather than "what users truly want in order to get their jobs done".
            RationalGuy
          • Surface Pro as a desktop replacement?

            No wonder why we are not reading this in the press, because it is a stupid thing to say. Unless your users didn’t need a desktop to start with, I cannot see how a tablet will replace a desktop.
            mil7
          • Obviously....

            You haven't used a Surface Pro. You can use a usb hub and display port to power multiple monitors and everything else.
            kstap
          • jmagzdnet...your IT managers are a joke for trying W-8

            The learning curve of W-8 vs W-7 will be way to much and still have productivity (CTO) publis the job openings when they all get fired.

            That's something that I would expect Loverock Davidson to POST.
            Over and Out
          • But Its Easy

            I found Windows 8 easy to use out of the box. I was able to navigate all around it in a short time. Windows 8 is more fun and interesting to use than the old Windows and its faster and more stable.
            Bobby Salvin
          • Windows 8, Easy, more fun, more stable????

            Windows 8 is based on Windows 7 with a new interface and touch improvements. It's certainly not more stable than Win 7. If it's so easy and more fun, why am I making a pretty good buck downgrading customer's computers from Win 8 to Win 7 because they hate it. Yes, it is mostly seniors, but they buy a lot of laptops.
            Laurentian Enterprises
          • I love Windows 8....after installing Start8

            I work in audio recording and multi-media. My studio is cross platform (Mac and Windows). Win 8 is superior to Win 7 where it counts...under the hood. Even non-power users will benefit from the smoother, more memory efficient operation. I dislike the Metro desktop, but not rabidly so. For my needs, the familiar desktop from the past floats my boat...enter the $5 Start8 app from Stardock. I am using Win 8 on my 5 year old I7 920 tower, and a 7 year old HP nc8430 laptop. This OS has succeeded in extending the useful life of this "dated" hardware. Not bad!
            brownbagmusic@...
          • More fun...

            The Fisher-Price interface makes it a great toy for watching your Twitter and Facebook feeds. It's a shame that Metro cripples productivity so badly. You have 20 applications you use in a given day, but you must choose two at a time to use. Constant loading and unloading applications to get things done isn't fun at all. If you're using desktop mode 99.9% of the time, you aren't using Windows 8. You're using a more limited version of Windows 7.
            BillDem
          • IT will always cling to Windows workstations ...

            ... because they can cling to the need for their entire existence. No Windows on the desktop means no Windows "image" maintenance team, no Active Directory team, possible no Exchange team, no anti-virus team, no patch testing and push team. When you build your entire career on the Windows enterprise stack, you will accept any piece of crap that extends the life of that stack because otherwise you're out on the street.
            RationalGuy
          • Haha!

            Yeah, a tablet running Win 8 will never need maintenance, the ability to connect to a corporate (or company) AD or Exchange server, and the way you word it, will never need software installed, or patches, or anything.

            It's magic!

            Fact is, Win 8 on a tablet is still an MS OS, and requires everything a workstation running Win 8 will. Plus glass cleaner.

            In fact, in addition to the regular pain Windows represents to IT, they'll now have to teach users how to get past the useless Metro interface to get to a desktop (where real work happens), and then, teach them how to live without a Start button.

            I'm sure that will make everyone happy. People *love* the challenge Win8 represents! They love to see things changed for no apparent reason whatsoever, and they especially love having to place a call to IT just to find out how to use the freakin' interface!

            Yeah, IT is quaking in their boots, but not because Win8 will be *less* work for them.
            justthisguyyouknow
          • Doesnt matter...

            If your infrastructure runs on MS or some other company's software, all those things you mentioned above would still be required. You are pretty irrational... maybe you should change your handle.
            kstap