Ellison back to Benioff: Salesforce.com's clouds are in a box

Ellison back to Benioff: Salesforce.com's clouds are in a box

Summary: At the OracleWorld Open conference in San Francisco, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison responds to remarks made by Salesforce.com's Marc Benioff, who criticized Oracle's new Exalogic machine with the statement that "clouds aren't in a box." Ellison says, "Salesforce.com runs on 1,500 Dell servers...which are boxes."

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  • RE: Ellison back to Benioff: Salesforce.com's clouds are in a box

    "At the OracleWorld Open conference in San Francisco, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison responds to remarks made by Salesforce.com's Marc Benioff, who criticized Oracle's Exadata machine with the statement that 'clouds aren't in a box.' Ellison says, 'Salesforce.com runs on 1,500 Dell servers...which are boxes.' "

    Not gonna watch the video - but this is so very silly and stupid.

    Yeah, DUH. "the cloud" has to run in a box somewhere. Information isn't magical - it doesn't appear out of nowhere.
    CobraA1
  • RE: Ellison back to Benioff: Salesforce.com's clouds are in a box

    This is marketing spin at its best (or worst).

    Both CEOs are right. The difference comes from an end user use case. Of course companies in the business of cloud computing like Amazon and Salesforce.com would need boxes to create clouds. However, a regular corporation trying to truly leverage the full benefits of cloud computing would not want anything to do with boxes. That is the cloud service provider's responsibility.

    Cloud computing is similar to how the mortgage industry separated admin roles of a mortgage between service providers, securing capital, and origination.
    Caffeinated85
    • RE: Ellison back to Benioff: Salesforce.com's clouds are in a box

      @Caffeinated85 Depends. If you mean cloud computing in terms of on-demand virtualization and not necessarily on demand virtualization from someone outside of your organization you can build what's referred to as a private cloud.
      snoop0x7b
  • Larry Ellison is Simply Jealous! haha...

    He is the biggest ****face in the World. Makes for a good dart board target. Maybe even better than Steve Monkeyboy Balmer or Steve iHitler Jobs (alias Steve & Steve iDiot Dolls)!!! :D
    i2fun
  • RE: Ellison back to Benioff: Salesforce.com's clouds are in a box

    I was at this one. It was certainly childish, but Larry is talking about enterprise (private) clouds. Companies like mine most certainly do need a $1m 'cloud in a box'. The average small-medium enterprise does not. So a cloud provider could use Exalogic, but a cloud consumer will not. A large corporation would provide the cloud capability (ie dynamically scalable - 'elastic' - services) to deliver up all or part of its functionality.
    So @Caffeinated85, you are correct. Both CEOs are right - it was just a p!ssing contest, and Larry absolutely hates to lose.
    Notnerb