VirnetX now goes after the iPad mini, iPhone 5 following $368m win

VirnetX now goes after the iPad mini, iPhone 5 following $368m win

Summary: VirnetX is now targeting the iPhone 5, the iPad 4, the iPad mini, the fifth-generation iPod touch, and all Macs that have OS X 10.8 'Mountain Lion' installed on them with a new lawsuit.

TOPICS: Apple, Legal

On the same day that it won a $368 million patent infringement case against Apple, VirnetX has filed a new lawsuit which alleges that the iPad mini and iPhone 5 infringe the same patent.

The new lawsuit, filed November 6, claims that Apple's latest devices, which include the iPhone 5, the iPad 4, the iPad mini, the fifth-generation iPod touch, and all Macs that have OS X 10.8 'Mountain Lion' installed on them, infringe the patent because they offer customers access to FaceTime and iMessage.

According to Bloomberg, the technologies covered by the patents come from work carried out by a company called SAIC for the CIA.

The previously lawsuit, which was filed in August 2010 and also focused on FaceTime and iMessage, covered devices such as the iPhone 4 and first-generation iPad.

Four patents are at the heart of the claim -- U.S. Patent No. 6,502,135U.S. Patent No. 7,418,504U.S. Patent No. 7,921,211 and U.S. Patent No. 7,490,151 -- and all of which relate to secured communications over the internet.

The judge has ordered both companies to meet with a mediator, and it is likely that a licensing deal will agreed to.

VirnetX is also suing Cisco, Avaya, and Siemens, all of which offer video calling services that it says infringe the same four patents.

VirnetX is no stranger to legal victories, having won $200 million from Microsoft in 2010 after a jury upheld the allegation that Windows infringed on a number of the company's virtual private networking (VPN) patents.

Topics: Apple, Legal

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  • Apple slavishly copied VirnetX

    This is a GOOD thing, right Apple fanboys? Companies have to defend themselves when others steal their IP, right Apple fanboys? All Apple had to do was find a slightly different way of implementing these things, right Apple fanboys?
    • Death to Apple

      Right! AMEN! Lets strip Apple of all their profits and lets see them sink like the Titanic! They deserve what they get. KARMA! Jobs is dead. VICTORY!
      • Android manufacturers may be be next.

        I don't think you should be celebrating too much.
        VirnetX are patent trolls who seem to be after everyone.
        I'm sure they have all your favourite Android hardware manufacturers in their sights next.
    • It's karma.

      It's nice to see Apple run through with their own sword. I like, own, and use all of Apple's iOS products. I even own a Mac, although I use my Windows PCs FAR more. But Apple's vast number of ludicrous patents on preexisting ideas have always left a bitter taste in my mouth. Karma sucks when you are a snake with evil intentions.
  • Is this software or hardware?

    I'm a bit confused how they can win a lawsuit then sue again over the exact same software patent just because that software is being used in a different peice of hardware. What's next, are they going to sue the owners of all these products for using the software?
    • Yes

      Yes they can if the lawsuit only covered one product line. Plus, Apple wasn't likely to talk it as serious if they only went after one product but, now the company has some real teeth thanks to the win!
    • Suit was filed in 2010

      The original suit was filed in 2010. Apple has new phones and tablets (that didn't exist in 2010, and so weren't named in the original suit) that infringe on the same patents.