Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

Summary: I have been waiting anxiously for the public release of Vista SP1. I had reloaded the Vista disk for my Lifebook S6510 a week or so ago, so that I would have a fresh load ready for update.

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I have been waiting anxiously for the public release of Vista SP1. I had reloaded the Vista disk for my Lifebook S6510 a week or so ago, so that I would have a fresh load ready for update. Today it became available... and although I checked Microsoft Update today, it didn't show up as an optional update. So I was surprised when I read that it had been released. It didn't take much research to find out why...

I have read several times that SP1 was being held up because "certain uncommon drivers" caused problems with it. I had assumed, because they were said to be "uncommon", that I probably wouldn't have a problem because of that. I was wrong. I definitely have one of them, the AuthenTec fingerprint reader, with exactly the driver release that causes a problem. Apparently Windows Update is smart enough to find that out, and that is why it didn't offer me SP1.

I may also have two other problems, but it's not entirely clear to me yet. The list says Intel Graphic drivers between 7.14.10.1322 and 7.10.14.1403; my laptop has 7.14.10.1244, even older than the "problem" drivers, so what does that mean? Is it not compatible at all, or is it so old that it doesn't have whatever the problem with SP1 is? Also, the list says "Realtek AC'97 Audio", but the S6510 has "Realtek HD Audio", I suspect that is not the same, so perhaps it isn't a problem - but I still need to verify this.

The bottom line is, at least in my case, the "uncommon" drivers seem to be a lot more common than I expected. I've just had a chat with Fujitsu support, and they seemed to be totally in the dark about this. On one hand I find that odd, because SP1 hasn't taken anyone by surprise, and the list of offending drivers has been available for some time now. On the other hand, considering how unprepared many (most) OEMs were when Vista was originally released, this would appear to be nothing more than a continuation of that situation - but I had hoped after all the noise made about it, that it would have been better handled this time.

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J.A. Watson

About J.A. Watson

I started working with what we called "analog computers" in aircraft maintenance with the United States Air Force in 1970. After finishing military service and returning to university, I was introduced to microprocessors and machine language programming on Intel 4040 processors. After that I also worked on, operated and programmed Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-8, PDP-11 (/45 and /70) and VAX minicomputers. I was involved with the first wave of Unix-based microcomputers, in the early '80s. I have been working in software development, operation, installation and support since then.

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  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    Update - I found a newer driver for the AuthenTec fingerprint reader (7.9.0.4), but after installing that Windows Update still doesn't offer SP1 to me. Obviously something else is still lacking, but I'm not sure what. I checked that I have the two "SP1 prerequisite" updates installed. It's probably one of the other two drivers I am suspicious about. I chatted with Fujitsu Customer Support, and they were either unhelpful, unknowledgeable, or both. So, I'll be watching Fujitsu (and Intel) for graphic driver updates, and hoping for the best.
    j.a.watson1
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    I don't think that you can upgrade to Service Pack 1 via simply checking for updates optional or otherwise until next month. For now you need to initiate the update process via a link on the Microsoft website.

    I have 2 known Driver issues with service pack 1 and yet it installed fine for me and I've had no problems with it. (sigmatel sound card and my fingerprint reader).

    If you search Microsoft.com for Vista SP1 you should find the link you need.

    Let me know how it goes for you.

    David
    davidaaa2
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    I plan to update my laptop Vista installation as soon as I get a chance, and then reassess it versus Ubuntu, which does almost everything I need on my Asus V1S laptop except three things: Recognise the built-in webcam, recognise the built-in 3G data card (which Vista has had no luck with either btw), and run MySQL Workbench natively (for which I blame MySQL, and now Sun). In the meantime I've been renovating an old Toshiba Portege 3480CT laptop just for the hell of it - remember the good old PIII? Well this laptop has one running at a couple of hundred Megahertz. And 128MB of Ram. Yes, it's getting on for eight years old I think.

    And how fast does it boot? About 8 seconds. And how long does a cold boot take on my Asus V1S Core 2 Duo running at several Gigahertz (that is, for the record, a good few hundreds of times faster than the Tosh's PIII) with 1GB of RAM, an SATA hard drive - and Vista? A lot longer.

    It's funny, I remember being at Intel Developer Forum in Palm Springs about, ooh, eight years ago, probably carrying that very same Tosh 3480CT, and listening to Microsoftand Intel promising faster boot times. Well, we've finally got there. The irony is, that the success has little to do with either of them.
    Lonester
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    Hi Matt,

    Did I understand that you want to run MySQL server on your laptop?
    If so I highly recommend VertrogoServ - it installs an Apache Server with PHP and MySQL support. Easy setup, works well in Vista, low footprint, easy to configure start up/shutdown.

    For Vista SP1 update check out
    <a href="http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10007590o-2000331855b,00.htm">my latest blog post</a>

    I'd love to see your 8sec boot time on your laptop. Could you upload a video? To be fair to Vista if you installed the OS on your old laptop on the new system it would very likely take more than 8s to boot up. The new systems although more powerful have a lot more going on hardware wise and generally take longer too boot. Also depending on your laptop manufacturer Vista may be crippled by the unwanted add-on software that manufacturers cram into their systems these days.

    davidaaa2
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    Hi David, thanks for the comment and advice...

    I assumed that SP1 would show up as an optional update if I did a manual search, based on what Ed Bott said on his ZDNet.com blog:

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/

    I'll give it a try manually, as you suggest, and see how it goes.

    Thanks again.

    jw
    j.a.watson1
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    Hi David, thanks for the comment and advice...

    I assumed that SP1 would show up as an optional update if I did a manual search, based on what Ed Bott said on his ZDNet.com blog:

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/

    I'll give it a try manually, as you suggest, and see how it goes.

    Thanks again.

    jw
    j.a.watson1
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    So far so sweet for me, especially on my gaming rig which used to suck eggs... One problem I encountered recently though was that my anti-malware programs kept crashing when scanning. Both required patches, but now work fine. I wouldn't be surprised if I need to patch a little more as the days go on.
    Christian Harris
  • Vista SP1 - No Go for Me at the Moment

    David, I was thinking of a neat utility called <A href="http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/5.0.html">MySQL Workbench</A> which I find handy for designing and normalising databases. I haven't run (L/W)AMP on a local machine for a while but will probably check out VertrogoServ - thanks for the tip.

    Also, I may well now put good old XP on my Asus alongside Ubuntu. Check out <A href="http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10007609o-2000331758b,00.htm">my post on my travails with Vista</A> to see why. And yes, I imagine you're right that it will take longer. Still, it's quite something to see such an old piece of kit booting so fast.





    Lonester