Vista to XP - Two weeks later

Vista to XP - Two weeks later

Summary: It has been two weeks since I finally gave up and went back to XP Professional on my laptop, so here is a short update. I could not possibly be more pleased!

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It has been two weeks since I finally gave up and went back to XP Professional on my laptop, so here is a short update. I could not possibly be more pleased! How is that, short enough?

This laptop never came anywhere close to working this well when I was running Vista Home Premium on it. I have not had a USB bus hang once, and that was happening several times a day with Vista. In fact, I have not had any kind of unexpected shutdown or reboot. It is so nice to have the various peripherals and programs working completely and properly, as well. Little things matter, and when there are a lot of little things, they matter a lot.

This Cisco VPN client connects and disconnects much more quickly, cleanly and reliably under XP than it did under Vista. SightSpeed works very well, no more problem with choppy audio. All of the webcams that I have work well, and don't interfere with each other as the two Philips cams seemed to be doing under Vista.

I'm actually pretty demanding of my laptop in terms of using it on the road, too. On a typical day, I use it at home with a WiFi connection, then suspend it while I go to catch the train; use it on the train with a cellular data connection (Swisscom Unlimited Data HSDPA / UMTS / EDGE / GPRS), then suspend again and walk to the office, then use it all day in the office on wired ethernet behind the corporate firewall. Then I reverse the sequence on the way home. All that without a reboot, and it's working just great. When I was running Vista, it had acquired a nasty habit of crashing when I tried to turn it on when I was on the train, after suspending at home. Instead of resuming, it would boot, and then produce the "Windows has recovered from an unexpected shutdown" dialog.

So, I am very pleased that I made the switch.

jw 8/12/2007

Topic: Linux

J.A. Watson

About J.A. Watson

I started working with what we called "analog computers" in aircraft maintenance with the United States Air Force in 1970. After finishing military service and returning to university, I was introduced to microprocessors and machine language programming on Intel 4040 processors. After that I also worked on, operated and programmed Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-8, PDP-11 (/45 and /70) and VAX minicomputers. I was involved with the first wave of Unix-based microcomputers, in the early '80s. I have been working in software development, operation, installation and support since then.

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  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    aside from some issues when i first started using vista ive not had any problems with it and im only on a middle-low spec dell desktop with 256mb gfx... i know loads of people who have and think it can only be down to the hardware!
    markrush@...
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    No it probably isn't a hardware fault. Vista is causing all kinds of problems on a whole wealth of different computers.
    I've seen a whole stream of discontented PC and laptop owners who are returning to XP and/or installing Linux to sort out the problems. I installed Linux Mint 4 on a Dell laptop whose owner had many problems with dropped radio connections and general instabilities. Mint took 20 mins to fully install and wireless and all the peripheries worked straight away - faster and more reliable than with Vista.
    A lot of disappointed Vista owners who go back to XP can't believe how much quicker their new PCs actually run!
    In our local PC World, Vista Basic 'upgrade' is on offer for
    t20racerman
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    I have used Vista Business now for 4 months and had no issues whatsoever with stability. Although my laptop was built for vista and came with full vista driver kit. There are of course incompatabilities with older software, but that is to be expected, in fact for the desparation I have installed virtual PC with XP Pro on it for those 'cant live without' apps.
    46796-f39e3
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    I have been running Vista (Enterprise for work & Ultimate for home), with a few issues that have been caused by the drivers which have been released by the OEMs.

    Tonight I fitted an Nvidea FX5200 into a tower that is running Vista Ultimate, and the driver that was available from Nvidea for download was dated 2006, and this is not even a release candidate - Go figure !! - however, Nvidea will tell you that the device was supported during beta testing but not for final product release.

    The biggest problem that you will have is obtaining upto date drivers until after Service Pack 1 is released in the next couple of months. Many of the OEM's just did not invest in the development during the Beta phase, and are now chasing their tails.

    One of the other problems that you will find as a consumer is that many of the OEMs took the decision to kill product lines that were less than 18months old because they viewed the new Vista logo as a cosh-cow and decided to openly rob the general highstreet buyer who does not know their base from their apex !

    As it currently stands, a new laptop with a 17" screen recently purchased from a computer retailer (doesn't sell in the highstreet !), running a dual core AMD x64 running Vista Ultimate with 4Gb of RAM fitted should have been flying ... the machine runs with the speed of a slug on valium - I couldn't believe the problems that we were having. On testing the machine, I found that half the drivers supplied were XP, two of the drivers were beta releases, and those validated Vista drivrs which were supplied by the manufacturers held a release date of 2006, and that despite having 4Gb of RAM fitted only 3.5Gb RAM was available to the OS !

    Ladies and gentlemen, whilst I appreciate that the frustration is being levied towards Microsoft, maybe we should start looking at the manufacturers and the state of both the hardware and drivers that are available to us. 64-Bit processing has now been generally available for 3 years, so why are we still buying motherboards which will take a maximum of 4Gb RAM when we're buying dual-core 64-bit processors ... Isn't this the equivellent of running a F1 racing car that has been fitted with the engine from a 1960's Mini ?!?

    Grateful for your thoughts

    Arthur
    pounder_arthur@...
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    512mb of the ram is probably taken to power the graphics, very few laptops have large dedicated graphics if any at all. Which also means graphics performance is usually poor.
    chrishocking@...
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    Arthur, and Chris,

    Thanks for the comments. Chris got in his reply before I caught up, or I would have said the same thing. When over 3 GB memory is installed, Windows reserves a big block for graphic processing and other UMB use. It is also worth noting that Logitech camera drivers currently have problems when installed on systems with 4 GB or more memory.

    My new laptop, a Fujitsu S6510, came preloaded with Vista Business, so I am once again on the Vista trail. I will be making another blog posting in the next few days about that, with comments on loading drivers and application software and comparisons with Vista on the S2110. My general feeling so far is that this one is much better, and is certainly much more stable, which reaffirms my opinion that Vista works pretty well on the latest hardware, for which the latest Vista-certified drivers are available.

    More to come.

    jw 31/12/2007
    j.a.watson@...
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    I bought an HP laptop computer running Vista Business Edition, decent specification with upgraded memory, and was immediately disappointed with the performance and idiosyncrasies of the system, notwithstanding the 'eye candy'. Over time the frustration continued and a problem developed with the recognition of the network device.

    Twice I used the inbuilt system to restore the computer to the factory condition but I remained dissatisfied and just stopped using the computer for a while. Then I started hearing about people
    The Former Moley
  • Vista to XP - Two weeks later

    i bought new Asus laptop i also downgraded from Vista Ultimate because the following reasons first the huge disk space then the battery life then the huge ram usage & space eater in Winsxs file in windows directory this in XP have no even 10% complain.

    note that i have no at all issues related to the hardware or software
    vista was running smoothly.

    but i decided to downgrade to xp because this headache faults.

    & also i can't deny that vista have a great options & features specially great looking but people must pay computer resources.

    you can accept that but for me after a great thinking no use for all that.

    Regards to all
    hamadauno