Windows Phone 8 offers relief from carrier bloatware

Windows Phone 8 offers relief from carrier bloatware

Summary: For some reason Apple is able to launch on multiple carriers and keep all the extra carrier apps and services off the iPhone. Windows Phone devices may come with some loaded, but Microsoft lets you clean house so its only Android that can't seem to clean the yard.

Windows Phone 8 offers relief from carrier bloatware

One thing I love about buying an iPhone is that Apple is able to provide the device through carriers without any of the preloaded apps and services that can add considerable cost to your monthly bill. Microsoft's Windows Phone devices may come loaded with several carrier apps, but the great thing is that they can all easily be uninstalled so that buyers get a pure Windows Phone experience. Android devices are the worst with LOTS of junk loaded on the devices that cannot be removed. In Jelly Bean, you can hide those apps from the launcher even if they are still installed on the device.

I just received the Nokia Lumia 810 from T-Mobile and Lumia 822 from Verizon to check out (reviews coming next week) and have been using the AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 and HTC 8X so here are lists of the carrier items loaded on each:

T-Mobile Nokia Lumia 810

  • 411 & More
  • T-Mobile Bonus Apps
  • CallerTunes
  • Slacker Radio
  • T-Mobile TV
  • Zynga Games download utility

Verizon Nokia Lumia 822

  • My Verizon Mobile
  • NFL Mobile

AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 and HTC Windows Phone 8X

  • AT&T Family Map
  • AT&T Navigator
  • AT&T Code Scanner
  • Slacker Radio
  • YPmobile
  • myAT&t

I am not saying that ALL of these apps and services are junk and should never be included. However, I want the option to remove them if I can or at least go to an area of the store and install them if I want to. Looking at the apps above, I like using Slacker Radio for streaming music and am thrilled that Words with Friends comes on the T-Mobile Lumia 810.

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  • Nokia 920

    Would like to see the 920 on Sprint......
    • +1

      I think once Softbank gets majority stake, you will see a lot of changes in their phone lineup for good.
      Ram U
    • iPhone

      not likely because of their iPhone deal. you should email to complain. i must have sent a half dozen to Verizon regarding Windows Phone.
      Scott Stams
      • Why Apple

        Maybe Sprint doesn't like the treatment from Microsoft? As for Nokia, the chose to make the phone for AT&T only, again nothing to do with Apple. As for Verizon, I'm surprise they're willing to touch WP with a 10 foot pole. After Microsoft left Verizon holding the bag in the Kin debacle, I would have Microsoft pay $100 per phone, for any windows phone sold on Verizon.
        Troll Hunter J
        • I don't think Microsoft never left Verizon, otherwise Bing wouldn't be the

          search engine there.
          Ram U
  • Google doesn't care

    What you do with Android, which is why carriers and OEMs load them up with crap. Some guy from Google said the other day, he was surprised Carriers didn't add their own skin to Android devices.
    • nope

      Carriers have done that. You clearly haven't seen San Fransisco phone from Orange.
      Or some AT&T phones with own styles. But they have been good ones mostly.
    • RE: Google doesn't care

      Best solution is to buy an Nexus device. See? Google does care.

      P.S. Google's Nexus smartphones and tablets are similar to Microsoft's Signature PCs for desktop systems. All are crapware free.
      Rabid Howler Monkey
      • Too bad they don't support LTE on Nexus 4.

        Ram U
        • Not yet

          I'm happy for LTE on my Galaxy Nexus, but also, I'm on Verizon. Our 3G tops out at 3.1Mb/s,versus 21Mb/s on HSPA+ networks. We really need 4G.

          Also, it might have gone unnoticed, but Google actually kept their early promise of a changed phone sale model, with the HSPA+ Gallaxy Nexus. Recall the first Nexus phone was going to carrier independent and reasonably priced. That didn't happen, due both to the tech and to their decision to jack up the price to get carriers to distribute it. But the GN works on any HSPA network (CDMA networks are locked, not the phones, Google can't fix this) and cost $350, just a bit more than an iPod Touch. They clearly want to sell the Nexus 4 the same way.

          LTE is more of a problem... AT&T is still mulling new frequencies, still rolling out on 700Mhz, while T-Mobile has no LTE yet, and they have to shift things around to start a rollout. That will take time.
      • Google cares correctly

        Neither Microsoft nor Apple are suggesting any level of freedom. In MS's case, they ARE the bloatware. Delete all bloatware apps on a 32GB Windows 8 Phone, hide/disable all bloatware on a 32GB Android phone, see who's actually way ahead on storage. Try it next on a tablet; Microsoft loses even worse.

        Google is promising freedom. They can't promise that, then go back and force OEMs or carriers to give up that freedom. They have the better way: deliver good hardware at a fair price with frequent updates, and make that a competitive problem for those who force other things on you.

        This also forces Google to be better, too. Other homescreen/launchers originally did some things better than Google's austere launcher. Google's been improving things, 3rd party launchers are shinking. And of course, you can always find an alternate, if the built-in is bad.
        • You just described Prison

          "Google is promising freedom. They can't promise that, then go back and force OEMs or carriers to give up that freedom. "

          Who cares what the carriers and the OEMs get as freedom? I don't. While there might be differences in storage space, I hate having bloatware I can't remove from my phone. For instance, on ATT, my Note, I am stuck with having Yellowbook in my contacts. I don't like, want, nor do I care what Yellowbook paid to be there.

          So i unlocked the phone and got rid of that crap with a custom rom. That's crap, and freedom shouldn't be defined as a prison for the end user. Most people can't or won't use a custom rom.
  • Lies

    "Android devices are the worst with LOTS of junk loaded on the devices that cannot be removed. In Jelly Bean, you can hide those apps from the launcher even if they are still installed on the device."

    That is a lie and touch even more only about USA carriers as other carriers offer vanilla Android or pure OEM version.

    Fact is, since Android 4.0 user have had right to disable the applications installed on system partition (some call that side as ROM side what is not correct) what is write protected for security.
    All what is needed, is to open app information and press "disable app". (You get to information easily by dragging a app from application drawer to desktop where top appears actions to uninstall or information (from there you can check how much app use space, its rights, defaults etc) and you just drop it over "information" and press "disable").

    It isn't removed, but it doesn't matter at all. As that space would anyways be reserved for Android. And we are now talking about few megabytes here. After disablation, user does not see anymore app anywhere or anything is not possible execute it.

    And user can change launcher to own one, giving user own home screen functions. Only thing what user can not modify are style what OEM has done for settings side and those are on android framework library. But it is a small detail.

    And user really can personalize Android far more than Windows Phone allows. Microsoft lies about that as well, as their customization level is only same as moving icons on iOS and Android, while Android allows you to do anything to launcher what makes it totally unique in the whole world.
    • Yes, MS lies

      and Google loves us like their children
      William Farrel
    • Huh?

      You said he lied that you couldn't remove it, then admitted that you couldn't remove it.
      Michael Alan Goff
      • nope

        You can remove, but not uninstall without root rights an program what is on /system/apps.

        It doesn't matter because _you can clean_ system easily.

        So it is a lie to say you can't remove preinstalled apps from Android (even without rooting).
    • *you* are the liar

      The "disabled" app still demands its updates. And, on many Android phones you can't even disable some of the bloatware- my Sony Experia (POS) will not let me disable their bloat.
  • Nokia 822?

    Where's the 920 (922?)
  • Nokia

    I have to say I'm quite enjoying my Lumia 920, makes a change from my old iPhone 4
    • Im enjoying my 7 month old Lumia 800

      that has no WP8 love as I cannot justify the purchase of yet ha other handset at this time. Feeling a bit left in the cold by MS and Nokia.