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iPod to get WiFi syncing? It’s about time

By | April 13, 2011, 12:01am PDT

Summary: Apple may be considering using carbon fiber in its idevices because it works better with WiFi. Apple’s acquisition of Liquidmetal and a pair of resin patents make things even more interesting.

Cult of Mac posted a piece that indicates that Apple has been researching adding to WiFi to iPod for over two years. Word is that the order came from Steve Jobs himself, so it’s definitely a priority — if true.

A WiFi iPod has one huge value-add: wireless syncing, a feature its never had.

It’s embarrasing that the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad all have WiFi radios (some since 2007, mind you) and they still can’t sync music and movies over the air. No sir, it’s 2011 and you still have to sync your tunes via an expensive ($19!) and proprietary USB cable. I’ve been blogging (ahem, ranting) about it since 2007 and it’s patently absurd.

The issue is that aluminum, although strong and green, isn’t radio transparent. Because it’s a metal (and thus conductive) WiFi performance is terrible in an aluminum sarcophagus. According to Cult, the best solution is a carbon fiber enclosure and Apple’s reportedly researching the composite material in upcoming iPods.

According to Cult, the smoking gun is that Apple recently hired a composites engineer, but not just any composites engineer:

Apple has just hired a Senior Composites Engineer. Kevin Kenny began work at the Cupertino campus this month after spending 14 years building carbon fiber bicycles for Kestrel Bicycles, where he was the President and CEO.

Fanning the flames is the fact that Kenny is listed an the author of a patent for Reinforced Device Housing that Apple filed in 2009. Then Apple filed a patent application for Composite Laminates from Carbon Reinforced Resin in 2010.

Fast Company takes issue with the rumor, claiming the carbon fiber isn’t radio transparent, noting that it’s actually conductive according to the FAA Pilot’s handbook of aeronautical knowledge. Fast Company also mentions that its high cost of construction and few color options casts further doubt on the carbon fiber rumors.

If it’s not aluminum and not carbon fiber, the next iPod could be constructed of Liquidmetal, a technology that Apple acquired in August 2010.

The corporate website boasts that Liquidmetal “is a creator of a new metallic, glass, substance that stores energy much better than stainless steel or Titanium” and has “more than twice the strength of Titanium with the processability of plastics.”

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Jason O'Grady is a journalist and author specializing in mobile technology. He has published six books on Apple and mobile gadgets and his PowerPage blog has been publishing for over 15 years.

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Jason D. O'Grady

Jason D. O'Grady developed an affinity for Apple computers after using the original Lisa, and this affinity turned into a bona-fide obsession when he got the original 128 KB Macintosh in 1984.

He started writing one of the first Web sites about Apple (O'Grady's PowerPage) in 1995 and is considered to be one of the fathers of blogging. He has been a frequent speaker at the Macworld Expo conference and a member of the conference faculty. He also co-founded the first dedicated PowerBook User Group (PPUG) in the United States.

After winning a major legal battle with Apple in 2006, he set the precedent that independent journalists are entitled to the same protections under the First Amendment as members of the mainstream media.

O'Grady is the author of The Nexus One Pocket Guide, The Droid Pocket Guide, The Google Phone Pocket Guide, and The Garmin nuvi Pocket Guide (Peachpit Press), the author of Corporations That Changed the World: Apple Inc. (Greenwood Press), and a contributor to The Mac Bible (Peachpit Press). In addition, he has contributed to numerous Mac publications over the years, including MacWEEK, Macworld, and MacPower (Japan).

When he's not writing about Apple for ZDNet at The Apple Core, he enjoys spending time with his family in New Jersey.

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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
ptricia Updated - 14th Oct
I think it's really time for iPod WiFi syncing. It would be much more convenient for all users especially when traveling to any place such as Hotels Quebec City and Turks and Caicos hotels or on vacation in apartments in Jamaica because they can just WiFi sync anywhere.
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"Because it?s a metal (and thus conductive) WiFi performance is terrible in an aluminum sarcophagus." Hmmm, is that why my MBPro often has poorer Wifi connectivity than the cheap plastic-cased Windows computer that is right next to me?
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@AllenKenya
I suspect the aluminum does diminish signal strength (though I'm no engineer, so don't take my word for it).

The part that gets me: aluminum or not, my MBP does communicate fine with wireless routers. And so have my iPhones and iPod Touches. (And I suspect iPads do fine, too.)

So, aluminum or not, the case really isn't an excuse: wifi works on all of Apple's devices that have it, so they could have enabled wifi sync'ing ... they just chose not to. Not one of their smarter moves. As others pointed out, even the Zune has had wifi sync'ing since v1.0.

For all the smart people they have at Apple, they still do some dumb things.
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@jscott69
I have an app on my iPad called "Remote" that allows me to control iTunes on my pc remotely. So why no wi-fi synching, even with an aluminium case? I agree with you totally.
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@AllenKenya I don't know if the aluminum affects the wifi signal or not, but my plastic Macbook has the best wifi reception of any computer/device that I have ever owned. I often am sitting next to people using other laptops in public places and I will pick up several more networks than anyone else.
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@AllenKenya My wife's MacBook Pro works great with WiFi. To the point where I can have it about 250 feet away from my house and I still get usable 2.4GHz WiFi (though 5GHz is preferred).
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
alsobannedfromzdnet Updated - 13th Apr 2011
An "expensive cable"?

They come free with them as that is how you charge them.
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@alsobannedfromzdnet I agree with your point - it comes with it, however, I have multiple micro-usb cables scattered around my home, office, car, you name it, and they cost $0.50 each. Comparatively, doing the same with iDevice cables would be expensive. Secondly, regardless of the cost of cables, Apple really need to get what is actually not rocket science working. Pair up a device using a cable, use a TCP network socket over WiFi for syncing.
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@mountjl

But it is just capitalizing on the same laziness that allows Best Buy to put $30 USB cables (I swear I am not joking) on its shelves. Just search iPod cable online and you can pick up a bunch for $1.50 or so each.
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
Pete "athynz" Athens 13th Apr 2011
@mountjl One can get the cables from eBay for cheap as well and they work well syncing with iPods and iPhones.
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It is embarrassing when even the first generation Zune did this and did it well!

Here's an idea though, how about ditching the need for a PC and iTunes all together! Competitors are doing it and it works well.
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
ItsTheBottomLine 13th Apr 2011
@Peter Perry Forgot about that but you will be flammed for saying the word Zune, but you are 100% correct it did it very well.
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@Peter Perry I agree let's PLEASE ditch iTunes! A friend actually asked me how I manage my music without it! I almost laughed at him.
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@Peter Perry
Just a small niggle, but technically the first version of the Zune did not support syncing over wi fi either; Only Zune to Zune. (The squirt feature.) Wi fi syncing didn't happen for almost a year later.

IMO, this is why the Zune failed. It's launch product was plagued by crippled functionality and poor design, and even though later iterations got it right, the first Zune (the only one people paid attention to) poisoned the brand forever.
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@Tigertank - Unfortunately the crippled squirt (send the file with DRM) was required by the music industry where they demanded that the file get exactly three plays and then the 'recipient' had to purchase the track to get full play rights.
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Like Pete said, Zune (and now Windows phone) has been doing this for years already. Works really well too.
While its "natural" state is the typical woven black/gray look that we're all familiar with, carbon fiber components can be painted, the resins can be tinted, or the components can be dipped in a color, then dipped in a protective clear coat. Color really isn't limited.

Cost-wise, CF isn't necessary cheap, but what Apple would be doing with it isn't nearly as demanding as constructing an entire supercar chassis out of the stuff. I suspect that a simple iPad case would be about on-par with the cost of the snazzy aluminum covers used now.
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Hmmmm....
Ben_E 13th Apr 2011
....does anybody recall the Steve Jobs interview at the All Things Digital D8 conference? (Last year, right after the iPad came out, but before iPhone 4 was released)

Somebody asked a question at the end about why Apple did not allow syncing over wi-fi and hilariously SJ rephrased the equation to turn it into "No, what you're asking about is sharing your library."

I just remember watching the interview and shouting at my laptop "No!!! No!!! That's not what he asked!!! We know you're pushing your new Home Sharing tech in iTunes, but quite frankly that doesn't go far enough!!!" (or words to that effect...).

Oh well. I love Apple's kit and I'm well into their eco-system, up to and including a MobileMe account, but the syncing over wi-fi thing has always been an issue I'd hoped they would resolve sooner rather than later (aka "when SJ decides to finally allow it to happen").
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I don't see the connection
oncall Updated - 13th Apr 2011
Surely if Apple wanted to add wifi to their current lineup they could do it right now, even with it's current Aluminum casing which is what my 2nd gen iPod touch uses. I think you are trying to connect a rumor (carbon fiber casings) with something you really want (wifi syncing).
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RE: "I don't see the connection"
Userama 13th Apr 2011
@oncall
Is that a sly joke about wireless syncing?
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LOL
oncall 13th Apr 2011
@Userama

I guess it was wink
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
Rick_K Updated - 13th Apr 2011
Technically it would only require a software update to enable WiFi syncing. Both my iPod touch (Gen 4) and my MacBook Pro work well over WiFi. As for those that claim the Zune has 'done if forever, if it was/is truly wireless, then why did you need to plug it into the computer while Wirelessly syncing?
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
Pete "athynz" Athens 13th Apr 2011
@Rick_K There is a tweak available for jailbroken iOS devices that does enable wifi syncing... personally I think it's just as easy to plug it into my computer and let it sync and charge overnight.
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@athynz I wouldn't complain about being able to sync via WiFi but I too have never seen the issue with plugging in. I sync while I am charging so what exactly is the issue anyway?
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Have to Agree...
Hasam1991 13th Apr 2011
I can control everything Apple using wifi but I can't sync??? I can even do airplay and show my iphone videos on the big screen...
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...to buy one of those "expensive" USB cables. LOL
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
fireyouritguys 13th Apr 2011
There has to be a security concern that's driving Apple to stay away from Wireless Sync. Perhaps something in the contracts the company signed to license/resell iTunes content. Apple thinks people will intercept and copy files. If not, perhaps a concern that the initial sync of several GB would take forever, assuming someone is stupid enough to do the first sync that way.
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I'd like to see Wi-Fi support for transferring photos out of the camera roll and into the Photos app's Photo Library. I already do that stuff with 3rd party apps but Apple should support it directly.

Other than that, I've got no need to sync much anymore. I buy music & apps, update podcasts, and sync my calendar & notes over Wi-Fi already.

Beyond photos, the only need to connect nowadays is to back up and to upgrade iOS.
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Just a thought......
Userama Updated - 13th Apr 2011
What if, when you're wirelessly syncing, the battery in your mobile device poops out? Wouldn't that mess things up pretty good? At least if it's connected to a power source through a cable, the chances of this happening are minimal.
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I'll add a few more thoughts
oncall 13th Apr 2011
@Userama

Wireless transfers are power hungry. Syncing itself is problematic (go visit the Apple TV forums if you doubt this). And, of course, the biggest one is you have to have iTunes actually running somewhere on the network for it to even work at all. So now, instead of having a small power efficient device that only once in a blue moon needs to be synced you have a power guzzling computer waiting in the background to answer calls for data (and don't even get me started on the reliability of "wake on LAN", again visit the Apple TV forums to read the tales of woe regarding this).

Other than those and probably more I'm not thinking of, hey it's great to want progress wink
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May I ask,why we need an iPod Touch nowadays?
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Over here
Robert Hahn 13th Apr 2011
@salasja You don't. Send yours to me and I'll get rid of it for you.
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The cables are more expensive than the standard USB mini and micro cables. Plus, you don't have one with you, you're screwed. I understand why wi-fi wouldn't be your first choice when first syncing the iPod, when I synced mine for the first time it had to sync 18GB. I would rather do that over USB 2.0 instead of a wi-fi connection.
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@RyanJ989 You get one with the device and they are readily available online for $1 or less so the prices of the cable is really irrelevant. You also mention that if you don't have a cable with you, your screwed. If your iTunes library is on the computer why wouldn't you have a cable there to begin with? We are not talking about being on a business trip and needing to sync with some random computer when you left your cable at home, you wouldn't do that anyway.
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I hate WiFi syncing
use_what_works_4_U 13th Apr 2011
I sync my Android phone via WiFi - as I get in bed. The reason I only do it then is that the transfer rate is horribly slow compared to doing the task over a wire. It's fine for small file transfers but WiFi is not a good solution if you regularly sync large amounts of data.
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case and wifi syncing are not related
reasonableman 13th Apr 2011
If it can stream video to an AppleTV the casing isn't what's stopping it from syncing.
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Just kill iTunes
MikeFM 13th Apr 2011
I care less about going cordless than about finally seeing the end of iTunes. iTunes' management of apps is simply horrible and it doesn't even let you keep playlists of apps which make it difficult to manage once you get into hundreds or thousands of apps. It's often faster to download an app again by Wifi than to sync it by USB. And it isn't smart enough to download purchases made on your device to your iTunes library so if you lose or break your device you have to remember to redownload your apps and you're just out of luck for movies. (Or in my case my iPad's internal db got corrupted.)

Cloud access is really the way to go. I'd like to be able to scroll my page up on my iPhone/iPad and see a list of every app I've ever purchased, and not told to completely delete from my account, just like my normal home screens but with those not currently installed ghostly so you know it'll need to install before running. And maybe another page flip to see movies, another for music, etc.

Data management is one of the worst aspects about computers and personal devices today. It'd be nice if Apple could make cloud storage transparent and secure.
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@MikeFM Apps purchased on my iPhone get transferred to my iTunes library on my PC as do those purchase directly from my wife's iDevices.
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Yeah, life has just been unbearable without it.
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Why is this so hard?
obbie@... 13th Apr 2011
Many apps already sync wirelessly with their desktop counterparts. So why should I (or the clients I support) have to remember to plug in a cable to keep our calendars, contacts, bookmarks, etc. in sync.

Yeah, I suppose syncing music and videos over wifi could be a high volume of data that could quickly drain the battery, but these other things are critical in our day-to-day business.

How about it Apple? If any app developer has wifi syncing available, why can't you provide the same thing for iCal and Address Book?
Really I'd love this on my 3rd gen ipod...
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
thibaulthalpern 13th Apr 2011
To state that wifi syncing is not available on iDevices is due to their aluminium backing makes absolutely no sense at all. Or, it perhaps points out that you need to explain further. For one thing, if Wifi works on my iPod touch and iPad 2, both of which have aluminium backing, then why would Wifi syncing not? After all, I can watch Netflix and use other heavy bandwidth programmes on both devices.

I conclude that the aluminium backing of iDevices is not a reason for why Wifi syncing is not available. I think it may have to do with something else, such as speed and battery consumption?
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Sorry, folks! Be careful of what you wish for. Wi-fi synching will be slow, and if you're updating gobs of apps, videos, etc. you're going to eat up battery life, hurt performance, and wonder why it's taking so long!

No thanks! Sure, I'd like it as an option, but it won't end up being that useful in practice!

Now, as to the cost of the cable, the original story here should be updated. The "defense" of the mis-statement is a weak one--but easily fixable by just putting the comment about it adds up if one wants a cable in various locations.

In fact, though, with an iPad, iPod Touch, and the dock, we have chargers all over the house!
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The metal case on an ipod touch doesn't seriously impair a wifi signal. I get a good connection at home, work, and at hotspots at most of the places I go.

And as far as wifi syncing goes, there are apps that allow you to sync all kinds of files by wifi - music, documents, even mp4's that are 100's of mb's. I haven't synced with iTunes in months - I only use it now to update iOS.
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RE: iPod to get WiFi syncing? It's about time
neilpost Updated - 14th Apr 2011
The problem isn't really the syncing method, though WiFi or 3G will heklp here, it is the cancer that is iTunes than needs surgically removed and replaced with something that is not S-H-I-T.
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While aluminum definitely soaks up radio signals, carbon fiber can be very brittle with impacts. There would suddenly be a bunch of complaints of people dropping their iPhones on the floor and watching the case split into jagged shards. I honestly think they are just exploring possibilities and drawbacks, not designing the next case.
Wi-Fi Sync has always been available as an App in the Cydia store. The developer stated that he submitted his app to crApple to get it added to the app store; but it got rejected by fukn Steve Jobs, so, he put it on the Cydia store.

Now crApple is copying the idea and now gonna use that as a new feature as they've always been doing from the iPhone 1. Probably part of what they'll be claiming as the new feature in iOS 5.

Yawwnn, come up with something new Stevey Jobs, quit playing copycat like other businesses.
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I have wifi syncing...
china_cat84 Updated - 21st Jun
I have a Verizon iPhone 4. It's jailbroken and I can sync over wifi. In my opinion, it's not the aluminum casing, it's the fact that Apple never made the technology available. Obviously, the capability's there, otherwise I wouldn't be able to do it. It's sad that one has to JB an Apple device to get full use out of it...I never used to consider JBing, because I had been told that you could very easily brick your device, but that's not true. There are many misconceptions out there. In my opinion, it's worth it - especially since I can now tether my iPhone to my iPad without paying extra for the service from Verizon - which is ridiculous, I pay for unlimited data and I should be able to use it.
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They should think about graphene..but carbon can be very fragile in one case but very strong in another way...I vote for Liquidmetal they promote to us.
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I think it's really time for iPod WiFi syncing. It would be much more convenient for all users especially when traveling to any place such as Hotels Quebec City and Turks and Caicos hotels or on vacation in apartments in Jamaica because they can just WiFi sync anywhere.

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