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What I expect from Windows 8

By | September 11, 2011, 7:00pm PDT

Summary: On Tuesday morning, Microsoft will offer the first extended public demonstration of Windows 8. Will there be any surprises in that demo? Here’s what I expect to see.

Of all the differences between Microsoft and Apple, the biggest one is this: Microsoft does much of its development in public. Because of its partner model, it can’t cloak its projects in complete secrecy and spring big surprises the way Apple can. The broad outlines are there for all to see, if you know where to look. Many of the specifics are there, too, delivered at developer and partner conferences where the audiences need details to plan for their next generation of products.

While it’s intriguing to obsessively analyze screen shots and videos and slide decks, they’re almost a distraction. You don’t need a bootleg copy of an early Windows 8 build to figure out what’s coming next. All you need is the ability to identify the big themes and connect a few dots.

On Tuesday morning, September 13, at 9AM Pacific Time, someone from Microsoft—almost certainly Steven Sinofsky—will take the stage at Microsoft’s BUILD conference in Anaheim for the opening keynote and will offer the first extended public demonstration of Windows 8.

I expect very few real surprises in that demo. Oh, sure, there will be interesting and unexpected details, but the broad themes and the big picture have been out there for months, even years.

I have no inside knowledge of Windows 8—I haven’t seen it yet, except in the same video clips you have, and I haven’t been briefed on it by anyone inside or outside Microsoft. But I can say with certainty that this will be a major release, with a long list of noteworthy changes.

Windows 7 accomplished its goal for Microsoft, cleaning up the Vista mess and reestablishing Microsoft’s reputation to deliver a well-engineered software release on a predictable schedule. With Vista in the rear-view mirror, Microsoft can concentrate on fundamental improvements in performance, reliability, and the user interface.

We have already had a few sneak peeks at Windows 8 and can list some of the obvious changes:

  • The new OS will run on x86 systems as well as new designs based on ARM processors. Its system requirements will be equal to or lower than those of Windows 7.
  • It will have a new Start screen, designed to work equally well with a touch screen or a mouse and based on the same Metro design principles used on Windows Phone 7 devices.
  • A new generation of full-screen apps (based on HTML5) will be especially suited for tablet devices.
  • The traditional Windows desktop, with support for all the programs you can use today on Windows 7, will be available as a full-screen app, with the capability to switch from the desktop to a full-screen app with a gesture.
  • Internet Explorer 10 will be part of Windows 8, and the Trident rendering engine will be at the heart of the new Start screen and app model.
  • The ribbon will be a key part of the interface for Windows Explorer and other utilities that run on the traditional Windows desktop.
  • There will be a new, Microsoft-managed App Store.

And that’s just what’s been publicly discussed so far. I expect to see a lot of changes aimed at reducing the friction that makes managing a Windows PC annoying and occasionally painful. Finding and installing drivers, migrating data and settings to a new PC, backing up data … these are all, in Microsoft’s jargon, pain points.

Back in 2008, at an equivalent stage in the development process for Windows 7, Sinofsky devoted one of his first posts on the E7 blog to an entry titled “Measuring the scale of a release.”

The magnitude of a release is as much about your perspective on the features as it is about the features themselves. One could even ask if being declared a major release is a compliment or not.

What followed was a typically thorough discussion of the all the constituencies that have a stake in a new Windows release—end users, developers, partners, IT professionals, and influentials. Reading that post today is like going through a checklist for Windows 8. New APIs and capabilities to take advantage of in software? Check. Lots of change in the hardware ecosystem? Certainly. Under-the-hood changes and a new UI? Yep.

On the Building Windows 8 blog last month, Sinofsky wrote:

We started planning Windows 8 during the summer of 2009 (before Windows 7 shipped). the start, our approach has been to reimagine Windows, and to be open to revisiting even the most basic elements of the user model, the platform and APIs, and the architectures we support. Our goal was a no compromise design.

[…]

We are certain that as we show you more in the coming months you will see just how deeply we have reimagined Windows.

That sounds like a major release to me.

As for the schedule, I expect it to follow the same basic timeframe as Microsoft followed with Windows 7. For that version, Microsoft had an unveiling at its developers conference in late October, with a beta in January, a release candidate in April, a final release to manufacturing in July, and a public launch in October. Those are quarterly milestones, and they reflect the engineering process that the Windows team continues to use today.

It took almost exactly a year for Windows 7 to go from a developers’ preview to general availability. If Microsoft follows that same schedule, as I expect they will, we should see a final release of Windows 8 in mid-September 2012. A lot can happen between now and then, of course, but those are the dates to bet on.

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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
rahbm 10th Oct
More crap, and even more frustration, as MS changes those things which everyone uses and became accustomed to. I have to fight with Win 7 to get it to do what I eventually learnt how to do in XP. As for MS Office, each new version makes it harder to do anything - the number of keyclicks and menu options increases each time with no improvement in usability.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
slownewsday Updated - 11th Sep
I have no faith in Win.
We've followed like sheep
To expect pain in
PCs and its upkeep.

I have no trust in MicroSoft.
Insecure, unreliable, and prone
To a myriad hacks quite oft,
No responsibility have they shown.

The OS tail continues to wag
The PC dog, with no shame.
Machines and apps choke and gag;
No, "Win 8 wasn't my idea," I dare proclaim.
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@slownewsday
Windows is the most secure os and windows 8 is to be the most secure os ever. This is not from microsoft. Years of hackers have made microsoft the best at that game. Go read a book and learn something before you get on here and look like a fool!
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
slownewsday 11th Sep
@imsimsj
Yes, please do recommend me a book which teaches me how Windows is "the most secure". I would very much like to learn and be less of a fool.
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@imsimsj if what you say is true, why is it that MS machines are the ones most likely to be running some bot virus?
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Puh! I'd like to see ya...
tek_heretik Updated - 12th Sep
@imsimsj bust in to my Linux system! Want me to post my IP? It's you who is the fool, Windows is purposely swiss cheese to allow access by them and their partners to spam and spy on you, wake up! It's been that way for years!
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
NTNerd208 Updated - 12th Sep
@tek_heretik

There is Wiretap laws idiot. Not to mention that data mining would be a nightmare to sort through and the fact that Microsoft would be sued for privacy violations. Grow a brain dummy.

@Al_nyc

The reason there is botnets on Windows is because people are running pirated trojaned copies of Windows. If they'd actually pay for it they'd have a clean system.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
DarkPhoenixFF4 12th Sep
@NTNerd208 I very much enjoy reading insults about people's intelligence coming from people who can't seem to use the English language properly. It's always good for a laugh. As is your assertion that only pirated Windows get hacked.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
Graham Ellison 12th Sep
@imsimsj How horrifically ironic. You respond to someone who offers us a poem [that fool flagged btw], by recommending he reads a book?? All we need to know about MS drones is embodied in this single dumb act. How sad. Okay, flag this:

'The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste. And I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way, in the sense that... they don't think of original ideas, and they don't bring much culture into their products. And you say: "Why is that important?" Well proportionally spaced fonts come from typesetting in beautiful books - that's where one gets the idea. If it weren't for the Mac the would never have that in their products. And so I guess I'm saddened, not by Microsoft's success ??? I have no problem with their success. They've earned their success... for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third-rate products.'

Steve Jobs 1996
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
frankcoleman@... 12th Sep
@imsimsj
You MUST be on the Microsoft payroll!
When a new operating system comes out that does not support "joe-average-guy," they show their utter contempt for us. I have at least 30 programs that will not work in Windows 7. I have to BUY the professional version to run them. That's just the plain old "do what we say or else" attitude they have. If I had an alternative that would allow me to run my "Tomb Raiders" game, I'd jump in a heart-beat.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
andrebrait 12th Sep
@imsimsj What he's trying to say is something people have a hard time inderstanding. And when there's one plague affecting these systems, they tend to cause a big destruction as well they do in Windows.

Unix-based systems tend to be secure, of course! Mac OS X is secure and Linux are secure but there are known security flaws in both.

With Windows' market share, abou every cracker in the world targets Windows. They work to find security flaws and how to explore these flaws because the majority of the PCs use Windows these days.

If crackers worked so hard to find security flaws in Linux and OS X you'd be sure they wouldn't be even near "secure".

Proof? Android is the most succetible mobile OS to malware. And it's Linux-based.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
Michael Alan Goff 12th Sep
Mobile is what? 5% of internet traffic? Mobile is nothing.
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Huh?!?!
spincitysd@... 12th Sep
@imsimsj " Years of hackers have made microsoft the best at that game. "

This comment takes "It's not a bug, it's a feature" to a whole new level.

Or maybe the argument is "By allowing our users to suffer years of security breaches, MS has finally learned to get security right. Thanks for being our unwilling guinea pigs."

MS fanbois never cease to amuse, or at least to confound.
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Android
spincitysd@... 12th Sep
@andrebrait

Android is full of security holes because Google released a half-baked OS into the wild. It then added insult to injury by letting any goober release apps into its store. It is not hard to release malware when you have the option to build it ground up. No OS can be secure when you leave the front door open for any coder who wanders by.

With Android, it is not the OS that is the security problem; it is the fact that the very programs (the Apps) are evil from the ground up.
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@imsimsj Windows 8 itself is a surprised. It is another thing that people with special skills can't see it.
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tujais 12th Sep
@imsimsj you are wise ...
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smtp4me@... 13th Sep
@tek_heretik

You say: "Puh! I'd like to see ya...
@imsimsj bust in to my Linux system! Want me to post my IP? It's you who is the fool, Windows is purposely swiss cheese to allow access by them and their partners to spam and spy on you, wake up! It's been that way for years!"

Go ahead, post your IP, but before you do bypass your cable modem/router and wire directly to the internet. Give me direct access to your non-Windows OS without hiding behind a NAT'ed firewall, I dare you...
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
ScorpioBlue Updated - 14th Sep
@imsimsj

Gee tell that to that naz-trojan I picked up on my home machine a couple of weeks ago.

And you haven't used Windows 8 yet so you don't know what you're talking about.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
ScorpioBlue Updated - 14th Sep
There is Wiretap laws idiot. Not to mention that data mining would be a nightmare to sort through and the fact that Microsoft would be sued for privacy violations.

Do you really think that would stop them? I have a bridge to sell you if you think so.

The reason there is botnets on Windows is because people are running pirated trojaned copies of Windows. If they'd actually pay for it they'd have a clean system.

Gee I got a trojan on mine and I paid for it. The OS was pre-installed and it was fully patched, too.

Maybe you should consider lowering the retail price instead of ripping them off at $300 a pop.
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More crap, and even more frustration, as MS changes those things which everyone uses and became accustomed to. I have to fight with Win 7 to get it to do what I eventually learnt how to do in XP. As for MS Office, each new version makes it harder to do anything - the number of keyclicks and menu options increases each time with no improvement in usability.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
gomigomijunk 11th Sep
@slownewsday is just jealous of the Windows platform because for all the hype from the Apple hype machine, Windows still, still, still dominates the world.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
PinStripedTie 12th Sep
@gomigomijunk And THAT is an obvious CLUE as to the kind of people whom rome this planet! 80% of the population are nothing more than zombie robots following the pack!
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@PinStripedTie

And you are probably a Freetard zombie.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
DarkPhoenixFF4 12th Sep
@NTNerd208 And you're a Dan Lyons-quoting ass-kissing serf of the Wintard community. See, I can write ad-hominem attacks too.

All OS'es have their place, and having a system of nothing but (Windows/MacOS/Linux/FreeBSD/whatever) is dangerous regardless of what the various groups think.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
DarkPhoenixFF4 12th Sep
@gomigomijunk Windows rules the desktop. That's far from the world.
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@slownewsday I am sick and tired or reading pro-apple news in blogs and news web sites. Yes, they reinvented marketing according to Ponzi scheme. Everything is so secret and everything is only for selected few people.
There is only one secret that Apple has no new ideas and its stock is greatly overpriced.
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Apple Hater
spincitysd@... 12th Sep
@Nikolayev

Only less annoying are Apple Haters who find it necessary to spew bile about the Cupertino ecosystem. Follow the money, Apple rules the tablet space and is the only PC maker that is growing in a market that is flat to shrinking. It can't be all hype.

People are buying Apple because, rightly or wrongly, they see value in the product. One case in point, no PC maker has found the secret sauce to compete with the Mac Air. PC makers can't even go to their usual stand-by of low balling the Apple device because Apple found a logistical way to block that option.

I don't get why people find it necessary to blast the house of Steve. Iconoclasm for the sake of Iconoclasm always ends up looking foolish.
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@Nikolayev The article mentioned the differences in the way Apple and Microsoft work, but I'm struggling to see where it could be construed as pro- or eve anti-Apple.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
Cylon Centurion 11th Sep
@slownewsday

Dear God, you can't be serious. Keep drinking the iCoolaid.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
tonymcs@... 12th Sep
@slownewsday

There are those that say
Windows sux
Let's go back to the nineties
and use Linux

Still others prefer
the forbidden fruit
and slap more lipstick
on their ancient root

The Mad Men say "Mine"
and promise the sky
While keeping close watch
on whatever you buy.

They must think it strange
that I just wave my hands
or watch pixels dance
at my voice commands

With faint cries they scream of
our impending doom
But you can't see the real world
from a Windowsless room

wink

Apologies to everyone. My only defence is he started it ;-(
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
linuxforhumanbeing 12th Sep
@tonymcs@...
And you are posting ur poem on a website which runs on linux server ..
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
GoodThings2Life 12th Sep
@linuxforhumanbeing... so what? It's no secret or surprise that Linux still runs a large portion of the world's web servers. Largely for no other reason than the performance of Apache/PHP/MySQL. If not for that triage, I don't know of any compelling reason to run Linux. I run my web stuff on IIS/PHP/MySQL and have never had any issue though. So what's your point? That somehow a news site running Linux should somehow prove it's superiority? Having purpose and having superiority are different.
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@tonymcs@...

No need for an apology... I actually found both poems amusing. Better reading than the usual fanboy banter.
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@tonymcs@...
Agree with you guys. I wonder why Microsoft is not giving attention to these blogs? they are the most powerful tools of marketing. An average man comes here with no IT expertise, gets idea and buys Mac. When he has got it he has to defend his buy, and being not good on computer use he can't switch anyways. Result you understand.

I am a software developer and working in Microsoft technologies since last 8 years. Even I got such a impressed with blogging that I bought Mac and iPad2. When I used the system I realized how efficient Windows is. After 6 months I have windows on Mac and iPad2 has got good amount of dust on it. I dont realy need such a closed device where you can't even put your usb memory.

The people concerned with "Security", "Reliability" and "Migration of Data" actually never done it. If they have experienced it they must be aware of these features in windows as well. You can make your windows system more secure than your mac by setting the proper security scheme. It is reliable if you have stable programmes. Yes it is your programme that leaves traces and tries to make mess. Again you can set your settings so that caches may be auto removed periodicaly. For datamigration there is an excellent wizard there..... If you think the Mac gave world an spaced font you are right. But there is one question, are you sure if the font were not given by mac it was not going to be done by anyone else? do you know how many cool features mac got from windows? if you see its user freindliness jus imaging there latest release contains a very user friendly feature...... a user can resize the window from any verge.... YES it is a new feature in mac that you can find even in Windows 8..... ever heard of it....... I feel it is really mess up of things via a few hired bloggers that are shaping the market for Mac.
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Security
spincitysd@... 12th Sep
@iqbaal

But the rub for Windows is that you are forced to go deep, dark and dirty into the weeds to set up the PC to have "superior" security to a Mac. How many average punters have the patience or even the knowledge to do that? How many are willing to reconfigure those settings when yet another bug or bit of malware comes flying down the pike? And how long before MS actually lets you be aware of the issue?

As a programer setting up a secure Windows environment is second nature. You don't even question why you are forced to do all this housekeeping just to perform normal work. But as a more average user I found diddling around with security settings more than a bit annoying. Having to reconfigure the PC to "extra paranoid with a side order of fries" every time some exploit came round the bend was a far too common experience.

And don't get me started about how MS would install stuff on to my PC even though I specifically told it not to. Shouldn't MS respect my decision to install bug fixes when I want to? Why do have to muck with the settings to make that simple request a reality?
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linuxforhumanbeing 12th Sep
@slownewsday
+1 great poem ...
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
tek_heretik 12th Sep
@slownewsday Nice poem, and you are right, don't need ya, don't want ya, they had their chance over the years and they blew it, over and over. 64-bit Linux Mint 11 runs just fine on my quadcore 4 HDD Raid 0 high-end PC. Don't need their power and resource sucking pretty garbage (better have a honkin' vid' card, and GPU cooler to match, lol), not to mention oodles in money and time wasted protecting crap that in the end, spies on you, makes you a marketing tool for MS and their partners. My XP Home installation disk is a coaster now, good riddance.
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@tek_heretik "My XP Home installation disk is a coaster now, good riddance." I hope that you're not using XP anymore, because it isn't safe. My copy of Red Hat 9 has been a coaster for a long time as well. I'm sure that is a security risk by now too. Lol, never knew you guys were poets and the full moon isn't until tomorrow.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
tek_heretik 12th Sep
@Muttz My last, LAST MS OS was XP Home, just goes to show how long ago I gave up on them. :-P I have a true PC, no Apple or MS lock in, it works, it's stable, secure and does everything I need it to do, very well, thank you very much. THANK GOD FOR LINUX, all hale Linus, lol. :-P
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Michael Alan Goff 12th Sep
What do you know?

Windows 7 does everything I need on my laptop.
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
tek_heretik 12th Sep
@slownewsday And oh, NO DRM! I can actually play my STORE BOUGHT LEGAL MOVIES on my computer without some bull$h1t coming up about getting an online digital copy THAT NEVER WORKS!
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
spdragoo@... 12th Sep
@tek_heretik

Really? Maybe you just need to adjust your settings. I've yet to have any DRM warnings come up whenever I've popped a DVD or CD into my Windows machine...
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
mikroland2.0 12th Sep
@slownewsday

My name is slownewsday, I will buy anything that apple makes with a lowercase i in front of the name because I am i-Naive.
I am envious of Microsoft for creating Windows 8 because my iPad, iPhone, iPod, iMac, iSuck, i-Etc, will now be in the rear view mirror.
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AdnanPirota 12th Sep
@slownewsday you are a moron and you probably wrote this on a PC happy
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RE: What I expect from Windows 8
KBabcock75 12th Sep
@slownewsday
A lot of what he says has merit.

MS was way late with Vista, only delivered on 3 of the 10 promised advancements and what they shipped was trash. It took them years to correct with W7.

Their products are still very susceptible to virus infections after all this time. No excuse here.

There innovation is virtually none existent and much of what they do are knee jerk reactions products to Apple and Google often done too late and too poorly to have any effect.

Most pros know that you never install a first release MS product until at least one if not two service packs have been released.

He is right we have excepted this type of garbage for too long but, I do see change in the air. MS is becoming less relevant in the new mobile order, it will be interesting to see if they can hang on in this new order.
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JoeFoerster 12th Sep
@KBabcock75 Agreed. Actual improvements = minimal, amount of flash in "new UI" to cover up lack of actual improvements = very high! The Ribbon stinks. Down with The Ribbon! happy
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ItsTheBottomLine 12th Sep
@slownewsday
Wow - must be a slow day at McD's...

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