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Windows 8 wish list: 10 Metro-style apps I want to see

By | October 11, 2011, 5:08am PDT

Summary: The more I use Windows 8 , the more I realize what’s missing: great apps. If Microsoft wants people to fall in love with their new OS, it needs a collection of killer apps. Here’s my wish list. What apps are you waiting for?

How many people have downloaded the Windows 8 Developer Preview since it was first made publicly available at last month’s BUILD conference? Officially, Microsoft says the number of downloads exceeded 500,000 in the first 24 hours, including the 5,000 developers who paid to attend BUILD. The company is tight-lipped about numbers since then, but I suspect the number of downloads is probably well over a million now.

Since that first week, Windows 8 coverage on high-profile tech sites has dropped substantially as tech pundits refocused their short attention spans on new shiny things. Meanwhile, developers are actually, you know, developing apps. And a large number of Windows enthusiasts and IT professionals are pounding on Windows 8 with a vengeance.

In Microsoft’s forums and on third-party sites, I’ve read lots and lots of praise. in this raw, early release, Windows 8 has made a great first impression, even among some critics who’ve previously been dismissive of anything with Windows in the name. As this screen shows, it really is possible for the two Windows 8 personalities—desktop and Metro—to live peacefully side by side:

Windows 8 apps, new and old

Windows 8 apps, new and old

But I’ve also also seen some harshly worded negative impressions come out of those early experiences. Lee Pender of Redmond Channel Partner. for example, calls Windows 8 “confusing” and adds: “Frustration is likely to be swift, heavy and completely unnecessary.” Sebastian Anthony of ExtremeTech put together a list of “five deal-breaking flaws.” ZDNet’s own Zack Whittaker also offered five core criticisms, concluding that “one has to question whether Microsoft has its head screwed on the right way.”

I’ve been using Windows 8 on a smattering of test PCs—desktops, notebooks, and netbooks, some touch-enabled—as well as in virtual PCs. The morning after Microsoft unveiled the Windows Developer Preview, I posted my first look at the new OS. In nearly a month of hands-on usage since then, I’ve assembled a much more complete picture of what Windows 8 is and isn’t, at least as delivered in the Windows Developer Preview.

I think much of the praise is deserved. Windows 8 is full of great ideas.

I also think much of the criticism is valid. The transition between the new Start screen and the don’t-call-it-legacy Windows Desktop and the new Metro style apps isn’t as smooth as it could be. In fact, now is a good time to be making a list of Things That Need To Be Working Better In Time For Beta.

But it’s too early to be drawing any firm conclusions—positive or negative.

Why? Because in this release it’s literally impossible for anyone outside Redmond to experience Windows 8 the way it will work when it’s released next year.

The Windows Developer Preview interface is unfinished. Some features are missing, like the “semantic zoom” feature that should make it much easier to work with groups of objects (like tiles on the Start screen). Some substantial pieces, including a few that were shown off at BUILD in Anaheim, are unavailable, too. Digital media features are the single most glaring omission.

The only “Designed for Windows 8″ hardware is the Samsung tablet given to paid attendees at the BUILD conference. Most enthusiasts and IT pros who are kicking the Windows 8 tires are doing it on spare desktops or conventional laptops. The number of people who can actually experience Windows 8 on a touchscreen that works well is shockingly small.

And, most important of all, there are no serious Metro style apps for the new OS.

I mean no disrespect to the Microsoft student interns who wrote the 28 sample apps included with the Windows Developer Preview. Those sample apps do their job, which is to demo specific features so developers can get some idea of what Metro style apps can do. They’re fine for 30-second demos, but they don’t hold up for long-term use. This app is a resource hog and that app tends to hang. The user interfaces are Spartan, the feature lists are short, and … well, you get the idea.

That collection of samples includes:

  • 10 games (don’t worry, Angry Birds, your franchise is safe)
  • 8 informational apps—weather, stock prices, a somewhat clunky RSS reader, and so on
  • 5 creative apps—InkPad, PaintPlay, Piano, BitBox, and Memories
  • Twitter and Facebook clients with extremely limited feature sets

After the first week, none of those Metro style apps were on the “used daily” list of any Windows 8 test machine I own.

I would love to see those same specs executed by experienced Windows programmers. If Microsoft wants Metro style apps and desktop apps to be equal citizens, it needs to deliver some Metro style apps that I’ll want to use every day. And those apps need to be there when the Windows 8 beta is ready for the public.

And that got me thinking: what Metro style apps do I really want to see before I consider Windows 8 ready for daily use? So I put together a top 10 list, which starts on the next page.

Page 2: My Windows 8 app wish list –>

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Ed Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications.

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Since 1994, Ed has written more than 25 books about Microsoft Windows and Office. Along with various co-authors, Ed is completely responsible for the content of the books he writes. As a key part of his contractual relationship with publishers, he gives them permission to print and distribute the content he writes and to pay him a royalty based on the actual sales of those books. Ed's books written prior to fall 2011 have been distributed by Que Publishing (a division of Pearson Education) and by Microsoft Press. As of November 2011, Ed is a partner in the independent publishing company Fair Trade Digital Exchange, which exclusively publishes his books.

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A program to switch or to turn the GUI back to...2000
mikifinaz1@... 7th Apr
Or XP
Hopefully some Developers got their hands on the Developers Preview for just that purpose.
I'm just not with the masses, if I want a cell phone interface on my PC I'll buy a pad. Apps in a OS, yup great way to drive more people to Mac OS. Thanks MS; your really starting to suck now. The last real OS was XP.
@guitarest

That is what Windows 8 is about in case you didn't notice. Only time will tell if Win8 will have an Opt out of the Metro UI for not touch enabled desktops/laptops.

If you knew your history XP was hated at first too. This is the case with most OSes especially Microsoft's OS. People that fear change scream and yell and tell everyone their opinion on how the latest software sucks and the old one is so much better. Then you fast forward a few years and the same complaints continue except this time it is about the same software they said sucked before that they now like. It is a vicious cycle.
@guitarest A fantastic way of getting people to ignore your opinions about Windows 8 is to talk about how much better Windows XP is than Windows 7.
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Windows 7 was the last real OS
William Farrell 11th Oct
@guitarest

Odd as it sounds, you're in the minority now, as many people are really giving MS thumbs up the last couple years on what they're putting out.
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Only time will tell if Win8 will have an Opt out of the Metro UI for not touch enabled desktops/laptops.

Well they don't have all the time in the world. They better make up their mind.

If you knew your history XP was hated at first too.

Until people discovered Classic mode and tossed the Fisher Price crap aside. Same principle with the Metro only there's no need to have it for desktops at all.

This is the case with most OSes especially Microsoft's OS.

Well what do you expect? When you have 90% of the desktop market locked up, it affects people's computing experiences greatly. That's the price you pay for being a monopoly.

People that fear change scream and yell and tell everyone their opinion on how the latest software sucks and the old one is so much better.

Some change is good, but if it's change for the sake of change then it's stupid ramming a phone-type GUI down on people's desktops is the ultimate in stupidity.

Then you fast forward a few years and the same complaints continue except this time it is about the same software they said sucked before that they now like. It is a vicious cycle.

Well it's true. You add more useless features (a relative term) then more things are bound to break. For example, Nero 6 was a great DVD-burning software. Then I used Nero 8 and got all sorts of error messages to the point that I finally had to abandon it for less intrusive alternative.

Check this out. I think it's applicable here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_creep

It's about as fundamental as the Laws of Physics.
@guitarest You need to get out of 2004 and come to 2011 because Vista and 7 blow XP out of the water..I think the problem is a lot of people try or tried to run Vista/7 on computers that don't have the resources to run them correctly. So they assume that XP is better because it runs better on a computer made 5-10 years ago..you can buy pretty decent computers that run Win7 way better than XP ran in 2004 for under $500 these days...
People hub, Mail and Calendar metro apps are coming (and they all look ace)

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/09/21/a-preview-of-windows-live-for-windows-8.aspx

I doubt we'll see Office metro apps though. Microsoft seems keen to keep Office a desktop app.
@bradavon There is a version of Office for the Metro interface and it uses the cloud and Office 365 and Skydrive. There is also a music/video player and it is superior to Apple's offering it is called Zune. It looks more like the author looked at the Mango phone and decided he wanted its features on the desktop because everyone of his wish list is available in Mango except for Skype.
@Rndmacts: Thanks I didn't know that about Office. Zune is a desktop app though.
Netflix and Media Center would make it up there. Twitter too. Some others would include Rdio/Spotify, a really good IM client, and I'd like to see what Photoshop would look like in Metro. Also, I don't remember seeing a PDF reader, despite there being some screenshots on Paul Thurrott's website...
Give me an immersive experience for competitive events (ESPN / NBC Olympics / WSOP)!
@scH4MMER
I do think IE 10 is trying to focus on HTML5 exclusively. I think we'll see a lot of 'apps' delivered right within IE. MLB Gameday looks good by me in metro as an example
Before catering to the casual tablet-centric user with all sorts of apps; when is Microsoft going to publicly talk about what Windows-8 is going to do for the serious PC-centric users, i.e., data entry oriented businesses?
@TsarNikky

My guess is around January, or whenever they release the public beta.
@TsarNikky You mean besides the fact that you can still run and create "classic"-style Windows apps with Windows 8? Metro-style is mainly for the consumption of data via touch, not production of data--class-style is recommended for that.
@TsarNikky They have not talked much about it outside of //Build/. If you went there there were alot of "boring" sessions about building business applications accessing data, varous controls available, and they built a huge number of sample apps (not the ones on the start screen) that show you how to use various features. The UI elements work well for mouse and keyboard but they are different and will require you to re-think your design. (of course if you dont want a new design why would you build it). Still alot to be fleshed out but the basics of a story is there, certainly enough to start designing and building business apps.
Without doubt the biggest missing piece is what the multi-tasking experience will be for the PC - Large Monitor - Dual Monitor user. Hard to imagine we will be limited to 2 apps on a Dual monitor set up.
@TsarNikky
WDP runs Office 2010 just fine.
Also Firefox 8, Chrome, Windows Live Messenger, and pretty much every other Windows application I've tried.
(Although, it does seem to dislike videos in Flash, but that probably has something to do with the video drivers being an "Engineering Preview". Oh, and IE10PP3 does have its problems too)

But see this:http://www.zdnet.com/tb/1-105743-2089989

It's a developer preview so developers can, um, develop Metro style apps now (and have them ready for the App Store when it opens).
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Good UI would be a start
itguy10 11th Oct
Have the Beta and it's horrible. One minute you're in a desktop style app and the next you're in a completely different Metro app. They both look and feel completely different with no cohesiveness.

It's just BAD, BAD, BAD.
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You have the beta?
Michael Alan Goff 11th Oct
How did you get hold of it?
@Michael Alan Goff It's a free download at http://dev.windows.com
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RE: Windows 8 wish list: 10 Metro-style apps I want to see
Michael Alan Goff Updated - 11th Oct
No, that's not the beta.

That's nowhere near the beta.

That's called a "developer preview" for a reason

Here, from the site itself.

"The Windows 8 Developer Preview is a pre-beta version of Windows 8 for developers. These downloads include prerelease software that may change without notice. The software is provided as is, and you bear the risk of using it. It may not be stable, operate correctly or work the way the final version of the software will. It should not be used in a production environment. The features and functionality in the prerelease software may not appear in the final version. Some product features and functionality may require advanced or additional hardware, or installation of other software."
@Michael Alan Goff I think @itguy10 was meaning the preview, not an actual beta
If he did, he's showing off his ignorance.

The developer preview serves the purpose of letting a wider audience of developers preview the work. It is meant to ensure developers start making Metro applications.
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@itguy10

And as I think I made very clear in this post, this release does not provide anything remotely like the experience you should expect from the beta.

Did you even read the post?
@Ed Bott
Then they should not have released it to the public. As it is, it's nasty. Metro should be thrown out the window; it's a FUGLY UI that has no place anywhere on a non touch device. Even on a touch device it's nasty.

There are few visual clues as to what you are doing so you end up with 2 very different OS's running on the same machine. Not sure how they can or will fix that.

Then there's the ribbon everywhere. For the 10 people that don't have a clue about a computer it's OK. For the rest of us it's wasted vertical real estate on an already cramped widescreen.

MS really needs to look at their R&D arm (Apple) to see how to do things better.
@Ed Bott
Don't worry, itguy10 a reincarnation of the famous troll itguy08 will try to spread FUD about any Microsoft product or Microsoft everywhere.
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@itguy

"Then they should not have released it to the public. As it is, it's nasty. Metro should be thrown out the window; it's a FUGLY UI that has no place anywhere on a non touch device. Even on a touch device it's nasty."

It was going to leak anyway, so why not? Better than it ending up on some P2P site, modified with baddies, and infecting users, no?

Also, I happen to think Metro is very unique and highly functional. It's dynamic (Compared with the static screens of the iPhone and iPad - *yawn*), easy to use, and easy to understand. Sure, it looks silly, but it's actually far from it when you actually sit down with it.

"There are few visual clues as to what you are doing so you end up with 2 very different OS's running on the same machine. Not sure how they can or will fix that."

We'll find out when the actual beta is released.

"Then there's the ribbon everywhere. For the 10 people that don't have a clue about a computer it's OK. For the rest of us it's wasted vertical real estate on an already cramped widescreen."

Again, I disagree, as you may well know, the Ribbon happens to be highly customizable. Don't want it? Then hide it, pin your most used functions to the Quick Access Toolbar and be done with it. The Ribbon, again, I think a highly functional UI. No more do we have to dig around archaic drop downs. Your complaints of it "wasting vertical space" are null. Ever see a drop down after drop down on a netbook sized screen? Now, that's cramped. Hide it and be done with it.

"MS really needs to look at their R&D arm (Apple) to see how to do things better."

You're kidding, right? First of all, OS X is using a UI that is almost 27 years old. Coming from Windows 7 to OS X, it's quite a step back in time.

Then we have iOS - an OS that sports a static grid of static icons. Wow. It must have taken Apple's R&D team years and millions of USD to come up with that!
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@Ed Bott - No he doesn't. Used to be ITGuy08...he was promoted. IT still stands for something other than Info. Tech.
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Oh, "it" in itguy stands for ignorant troll, not Information Technology.
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Pay no attention to ittybitty10
William Farrell 11th Oct
@Ed Bott
I think he's Richard Stallman under an assumed name.
(Or SJVN, not really sure.) wink
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Fluffy list, Ed
ScorpioBlue Updated - 11th Oct
The fact is Sebastian Anthony and Zack got it right. As far as I'm concerned, until those deal-killing issues are resolved, yours can wait.

Or better still, have MS build two separate OSes.
@itguy10

Wow..... Just. Wow. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
@itguy10 WOW you are amazing you have the Beta already, that's cool, and I bet you have a bridge to sell us as well.
@itguy10 No you don't! Only the Pre-beta developer preview is available. Beta is still months away.
@itguy10

Can I borrow the time machine you used to get the beta? I would like to go into the past and change a few things and then maybe to the future to grab some other unreleased products.

Thanks.
@itguy10
So yeah it wasn't really for the general public. not really even for pc enthusiasts. It is for 'developers' ergo the name developer 'pre' view. If you can't understand what that means I would suggest waiting for the beta to test it. which is what beta is all about... testing. You downloaded the wrong version. you'll need to wait for yours to become available.
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Is BS the only thing you can post?
William Farrell 11th Oct
@itguy10
I think it's safe to assume that's a lie.

Tell me, what are the chances that known MS hater like you would happen to have used all of MS's products, and how them all fail miserablly, even though the majority have said otherwise?

Hmmmmm.
My Windows 8 wish list: Fix Windows; hey we all know that's never gonna happen that's why I have switched to Mac and Linux grin
You switch to Mac and Linux? Why do you need two Operating Systems?
@Michael Alan Goff

Possibly it takes both to do what his Windows machine used to do?
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William Farrell 11th Oct
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@Badgered

That was a good one, +1.
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@Badgered

I gotta admit, I chuckled.

I do have to say, though, any intelligent (normal) user (the type who just uses internet, types up simple documents, etc) should be able to use Ubuntu on a normal basis and get it done.

*nod*
You've hit the nail on the head there Ed.
I've been using the don't-call-it-windows-8 Developer Preview since it was made public and the only time I see the don't-call-it-Metro-UI is when I press the Start key.
I thought I'd use it a lot more and dedicate my secondary monitor to it but that seems to work sporadically.

When WP7 came out there where a few nice apps to see there immediately but I think Windows.Next will need a lot more established Metro apps available from launch day to give it some momentum.
My wish list (most of which have been shown as in progress).
1) Office (and don't tell me to use a web app!)
2) Windows Live - this will cover your Mail, People, Calendar, Photo & maybe Skype and video in general. It has to be possibly the best batch of software imaginable to really wow us!
3) XBOX Live Games - They need Metro versions of the Windows classics e.g. Solitaire, Hearts, Minesweeper and something new, like some Xbox Live games
4)Universal Reader/Player - Something like the previously leaked Metro Reader that can view all popular file formats, e.g. PDF. XPS, DOC/X, RTF, TXT, PPT/X, JPEGs, Videos, Pictures, TIFFs, you get the idea. This could actually just be the Metro Internet Explorer
5) Music & Videos Hub - This should replace Windows Media Player, the Zune Client & Media Centre. Play everything as well as sync podcasts, and allow 3rd parties like netflix, hulu etc to build into it (like TV for Xbox Live)
6) Server Manager - I fully expect this to be available but it should also work as a replacement of the Computer Management console.
Being a huge NFL fan, it would be nice to have a small Metro app to click open to see the latest scores, and maybe some highlights.

Also, a Metro Google Earth app - but getting one from Google is never going to happen, so it would be nice to maybe see one from Microsoft. Maybe they could add it to their wonderful WorldWide Telescope app.
Windows 7 will kill Windows 8. I can see Microsoft having issues with windows 7 users not upgrading. If I upgrade it may very well be to a Mac. Not impressed at all with Windows 8.
Ed,

Don't you think a built in Mail & Calendar app that syncs with Exchange be a threat to Outlook sales? Even with Outlook Express, Vista Mail and the new Live Mail most use with Windows 7 they have never included Exchange support in these free clients.
How does one "Metro-fi" an app?

Isn't one of the main functions of an OS the ability to launch an application and then "get out of the way". Once the app is launched, the app becomes the primary focus of the user. The visual UI elements of Metro (like live tiles, for example) would prove a distraction while an App is running, wouldn't you think?

What design elements of the Metro UI do you wish incorporated into future Win 8 apps?
As a student I will require, as a minimum, an excellent PDF and Epub reader/annotator. (other formats would be nice, but those are the two I require) I simply EXPECT it to have everything a Business PC Information Creator user would need and not be just an information consumer device. I also agree with the absolute need for music and movie support ala Netflix etc. After all, THIS is going to be my go-to device OS for 90% of my on-the-go day.
Or XP

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