Deletionists and Networkists duel over 'Enterprise 2.0'

Deletionists and Networkists duel over 'Enterprise 2.0'

Summary: Ross Mayfield addresses the ongoing discussion that spawned from the deletion and now the reposting of an article--now formally being considered for deletion--of a Wikipedia entry on Enterprise 2.0.

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Ross Mayfield addresses the ongoing discussion that spawned from the deletion and now the reposting of an article--now formally being considered for deletion--of a Wikipedia entry on Enterprise 2.0. You can read some of discussion here, here and here.

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Ross steps in to characterize how the two camps, without malice, on each side of the argument of 'to delete or not delete' are coming at the issue:

In this debate, Deletionists have run up against what I'll call the Networkists -- a group of highly networked domain experts activated through blogs. Most are only casual contributors, so far, and some have had negative experiences (and some for good reason) making reverted contributions.  If I had to offer a philosophy of Networkism, it is that the participation of domain experts in creating articles and debating their deletion increases the quality of the process, and most domain experts will not become core members of the community.  Now this is all fiction, but over time it will be easier for both Wikipedia to attract domain experts and for them to activate and self-organize, so there may be something to learn from here. 

Reaching a concensus, measuring credibility, defining standards for trust among all the interested parties will continue to be a challenge for Wikipedia. Ross poses the following question in his post:

With the Enterprise 2.0 Article, verification is provided by an article in the MIT-Sloan Management Review, an HBS case study, a BusinessWeek article and reference to a Don Tapscott book.  But for some, this is not enough.  So I leave it as an open question.  Should Dan Farber or Dion Hinchcliffe blogging under the ZDNet masthead qualify as a reliable source, or is what makes them reliable what links to them say? 

As Ross points out, increasingly involving the Networkists/domain experts in vetting articles is a critical factor. As an example, a dozen Enterprise Irregulars, a group of enterprise computing domain experts that first engaged as a blogger contingent attending SAP's Sapphire conference at the behest of SAP employee and blogger Jeff Nolan, have been dealing with the Enterprise 2.0 flap in a group email discussion and in their blogs, and were instrumental in getting the article back in circulation. This proactive engagement, along with the collective wisdom from the linkosphere, is precisely the kind of interaction that will make Wikipedia more credible and trustworthy.

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  • inovator the why?

    Reasons to any that may find understanding to facts of medical and mental and financal to degreading feelings to where it imposable to follow and know your getting strait meanfull information. The fact that I.v been been off for 1 month ecept for 1 time 2 weeks ago,the fact that as then and know have alreary had to indure what I said each and every time, that there is no changing this intruder of constain peritory action,fact that I'v said only to documented truths and if in my opinion I make sure to say but that doesen't mean that I'v been 100%, it buy the trying to be prefetly honest in the backing up by frenzics that I'v done my best to stay on the path. Fact that a compant stated that they were willing to help from expermentions that for reason that what they did was a shook to find in the end writting could for combinations or just one, could cuase death it was notlike being a cussed of stocking and could have killed a indavigal but didn't and note stated maybe next time which I had not done and was ceared but this was my life now that somethings are occuring that I find that the medical we lost to fact that we can't find funds and though we about given up on this world< I can say for what is going on just how serios it may be but serios I know it is, and though I feel the way I feel it my wife that conserns me. Not to humelaty my family but the truth is we bearly may food this month, and now we lost are last loan to houses which is remarkable that wife pulled us though for 9 1/2 years. Fact that the truth is that as what already have been cept from information that I felt was workable and wasn't it as always over and over,time after time, then there the finding the needel in the hastack which in my opinion is a for years been happing and to being deliberately been the fact or if I go back it gone as with some documents in favorites ,that were very important as they were some kind of truth to the fact that there was finances that I put there to show family there was truth to what I'v been not saying for years for lossing my respeact and not forfilling my the plan we started, but this to is the case constan,then there is the mentel as much as I want to give to all people there is this obstcal that continues to do the same thing, tack it and as its knowen we be given nothing I mean not to sould as what other have opinion in writtings, I just like to know hqw much is a person to give befor there allow to make any kind of a living which is fatly deinied us. We I been tring to find what briefly read on a conviction buy can't say there is any truth to this either, it as always if we get to closes to finding somthing and if we haven't done a differnt excussion to get if by what is differnt to how were stoped then it just get futher and futher away, so as it is we end up as always miles be hind. the thing is I have so things that will proable never explored and haven't let on to and inmy opinion are far better than what was out and my prime as they say I'm not even touched,but daily not even feeling it a survival,it turned into there nothing we are able to do that going to get us help, no answer to suprem crout which has stated over and over by a lady nothing yet. But I find ints to are demies again in not allowed any layer or a voice or to proff of evadence I been caring for years, Why is it that all is in stocks bonds 401k or speaded out so emenes that we are lost and as it would be I just can't find any resposable way to cash course or look more as a complete idoit,which is not at all the cas when a person is unfomelure to the how and haven't been able to a start that would glady pay the person in the area but another crash course to another field is not build a working plan, I haven't quite but as most will agree I'v not or was able to aquirer and thing that has helped and as always if I do get to that poin the rug is in some way deverted away and that is the fact. If atall possable hp,intell, I give promission to move on If not to late and to share to allow other comanies to the new development of countless ideas and will alway be that way so to not allow any and all to pratispate In no less then a crim, Ideas are a for findind any has the ablity that just have to continue looking which is fun in every disovery and that means in joment is to be found in the same,no mater big to small,I find no difference in size it the finding that make for going in hunt for the next,endenlyen in the find?,my thinking is, If I could only boddel it. Well in the closing I have to say for the past that is fact to my body and the exspementions,I have to say that I have to continue staying off computer for it tacks a week to reduce my problem and In my Opinion I can't say what may be going or not going on and worces is from email to you name it I'm still fighting a battle as before,that after the 100 time and more of seen the same and no progress,but to only thoughs that continue to live very well, I can find anymore that I will give the greed, and they shurly care nothing to the hell we've continue to see a smoothing us to the end.Still limated I continue to try but why,because I am build to try or die. for all you youg people, yes I find it worth all,amagin there well be many that fell they can't when if you don't try how will you evey no,and better if you felt or thought of something, any for something, may have cause a discontinue, it a said day for you as later you find that someone eles has continued in what could have giving you that undeiable accomplising of what is you and if not every done again it not reason to sorrow for you'll understand what power in my words that paces you on the map, just remember that although I truly never have been in anyway reconized, to me it will have still be all worth it for I know and that just as good, blieve, and you can find you on selfmade dream that has full realy pact wonders, god bless. and thank you Michael A. Wandersee the inovator to cybrospace and beyond,million and tillions and more, does there be a door that has your nane already on it, it just waiting for you to find.
    michaela.wandersee
  • inovator the why?

    Reasons to any that may find understanding to facts of medical and mental and financal to degreading feelings to where it imposable to follow and know your getting strait meanfull information. The fact that I.v been been off for 1 month ecept for 1 time 2 weeks ago i went on line,fact that alreary had to indure what I say each and every time sims to alway stay the same as all thing in my case, andhas stayed pretty much the same,contant and repeatedly,over and over to a 100's and much mut to facts that I will sim discrib but the living is so reptishes, its become undiscriable to anyone.Intruder of constain peritory action,fact that I'v said only to documented the truths and if in my opinion I try to make sure to say,but that doesen't mean that I'v been 100%, it buy the trying to be prefetly be honest can never be 100% but try and do coverareas by frenzics,I'v done my best to stay on the path.Fact that it's been stated that help to medical should have already pesned to us yet as in of trying to get to we find our selfs looking as we can get there as they'll be a confusion to to why we couldent are worce,but why is it I say that we are to have to find all to all thing in need of very bad,that we never was asked or told or documents come as a puzzelIs it ours or is it talking about someone eles,for there is only but a very few document in the hunt of any that have my name to itand for 8 the ony documents that did is the one where we were to get the codes and that all the way to know, or just about,where they finaly put michael a. wandersee V's ?????????So I can not understand why we have to fight thooth and nail in finding every sentance to anything and there is a lot a whole lot and by me only and there has been no help so far, were made to find every inch to anything on are owen.If that not enough that we been happered severly from the strat,and the consistan working us over that ony continued to escalate and neve once would allow any rest as they continued in there betting us down in many cases when not needed,truly predetor through expermentions which is one of tomany that know one has ever believed yet but to thoughs that were to the doing, they know that shook to could even come close to writting and try to explain that know effect are in realaty as was exsplained years before from a company that had enough and try to let me no the seriosness and that these were people high in educaction and did the same exspement and up the dosage 3 time because they din't like the resales on the 2 preive ones,and document stating could cuase death and up to then been accussed of stocking and came within 5 feet if I remember correctly to what document had stated,that I was to have written in a note and sent that I could have but there luck tell the next time, as a theat that never happen and oly found bu accedent but was clearing me of is after 3 or more months of servalences of unknowing accusations and as my life was being suck apart for all to see in any field and now is published in many fields along with the 1000s of other exsperments done and I hav a stack 8 inches high and they are just the out lines ,10 to 15 0n a page.This is nothing to where we are now,this was our life for 9 1/2 years, Somethings are occuring from the exsperments that been going on for years but recently has eslalated in a way I wont go into and yes I and certion and can show some prove but that not going to happen as we yet to hav, told or been allowed to any thing the law stats is our constutional right which is not going to ever happen, we are not been given any of the thing that took hours days months,years to find and always documents of broken promises and that after appling all effores in helping only to be over looked as just used and discarded,that medical is just in the same fasion as all other requirmentas,I loses,fact that we can't find funds and though we about given up on this worldwould be easy but we haven't,I can say for what is going on is how serios this may be but,serios I know it is, and though I feel the way I feel it my wife that conserns me,not to humelaty my family but the truth is we bearly may food this month,and humilations is the futhes thing in our livesat this time when realaty is so close to putting us out of home so humilaty is no stanger to us for quite some time,and survive has been at the door for years and how the wife pulled this off this long is uterly amazing but here come even more of everything that comes to our door,we lost are last loan to houses. Fact that the truth is that as what already have been cept from information that hunting on the largest case by 2 fold in history that hunting information is far from a strugal,It become fact to impposable when always to end the same but carrying the stigma to continuly woren our live without any doubt to there cores to make it so,over and over,time after time,years after years.All deliberately beening the fact to what has nothing but what is being read hear and it is still hard to believe my self, so I can't say there is any reason for any one to believe me in this words that will never reach our lives and are daily survival.there are some relief to parts but not much,and so one is knowen that I have no longer in favorites ,there was a document I placed and was there 2 weeks ago and was my selvation to my faily belief in that I was in there still trying to get back what was stold and as alway becauce of not having a printer I places in favorites is not allowed as the fast have taught me very well,and hiding doent work so I knew it was just a matter of time and shure enough just like cock work,it was taken and befor I could atleast show some of my family,it wasn't to be,this is years of same prossegers,and were very important as they were some kind of truth to the fact that there was finances,that I put there,to show the family, truth to what I'v been saying,and years of lossing my respeact and not forfilling my task,in the plan we started,then there is the mentel as much as I want to give to all people there is this obstcal that continues to do the same thing,as I been so much a repeat, tack any information,any,and as its knowen we be given nothing,I mean nothing,why is it we have to seact to no end in sight to information that should be sent to us atomaticly, like the court case in 2001 Ifoud out over 1 1/2 later, why is that and worce is the fact that I run over documents to state to a judgement and have less than 30 days to comply by here it is many,many times a year later so gess what"WE LOSS,"how did any of these thing become law or fair,but this to will go unanswered as we have yet to get any person to talk to us,help in any way not somuch as even somthing in the counseling and filling are own papper work to sent off to the Supreme Crourt I would advise anyone to do but we had no choices.I just like to know how much is a person to give before there allow to make any kind of a living which is fatly deinied us,I been trying to find,briefly readed on anythig that I come across any more to what is true,or missleading or running us around in so many diffent ways,that I won't even go into,but the plain truth is after somuch there is nothing that has come to a thuth exceped the continued appaling abues as stated by the very company I beged not to be close to any thing we do and once agin for the 100 time my podictions were the same and worceand getting worcer fast,but no one seems to get it and we continue to live the punishing fact to what we never should have every been placed in and they live very well just waiting to be hand back over to with no doubts we will be as been 100der's of time before, where is is that this people can continue to live as our rules teating us as propert,taking at will any thing from personal photo's to fine art to a invention that I never put on the net and yet they found and stated to manufactor as I understand and found out only recently after years and a stator judgment that was 54 million that I'll never see for there working me over, is alone is enough to show just how ruthless there are and will and have taken everything we earned and as is the case still they build making tillions and us well were still searching ,and maybe we'll find some hope but as for compentiation,I'd place a bet on my death first and probable will win and won't collect.What is the truth is,if we get to closes to finding somthing,and if we haven't done a differnt excussion to get it or it can also be alot of the time luck and there is skill but if we get a good pieces of infomation,we can bet there be more troulbe on the pay back, Is how I come to see the fact but have some proff.fact were always tring andnever getting to what could save us, after somany loss on a bases that is so uneven there is not much hope in any recue for those in volved know well and that alone is why there not much in the way for a recue or much in hope,just in keeping on trying which is now even less and closes to the end in what ever mean,but it is coming ang there is not a choices or I would still be giving my worth for the sin that have been placed on my family this I will never forgive at best try to forget or better is the fact I havent given up hope that I might find my place to do just that, yes confuesed but not without causes of what is not seen buy any on this wold and probable never will at least I hope so and the realy reason why I still standing.In my opinion,I was not even in my prime to may areas that I unfortunetly see may thing come and go in my deveopling and can do anything about it,as with filing paper to supreme court went into appeal for there mistake that blaimed us and or effords to get a docket number to send our evedence which was not sent to us and what was is a court document of a criminal that was under sever felonies and many of them and just scared my wife even more thing that this guy was caugh on an attack that was foiled.This is the cases which has I stated over and over,But I find still we are not allowed are told anything that may give oppertunaty to end this never ending story ,which we live every daY.ALL AVOIDABLE,and I been caring this and evedence for years.Why is it that all is all of are royalties been placed into stocks bonds 401k or speaded out over such a uncontrollabe prosses and was ans has been the easy steet for hug amount of people also to loses track or continue paying out taxs or broker fees or loss to stocks and so on, and yet we are not to be trust in dealing with our on money. I was still waiting on answer to a thought: is this same rule apply to lottery winners, that they to go through what we have or is it just us and why is that what the hell did we do to provoke the stealing and puning us for doing what is only right and that is to stop a the teiving,but as I said we are beyond punishing and the thing appled to us,would some one try to explain why were in this hell for I can see no reason and fair is not fair some how fair is lost in laws that we the public will or better ios the fact commencens tell anyone there is no fair her, in fact this would be coser to heavey direct committing perpposly planed out toucher and still we find nothing to say differntly and I wish I could.As to finding a way to be resposable to yet another cash course in doing the right thing in stocks if I even new that I could get to as has been the taking of my pass word or veris other means to a detering fact of not ever reaching as thoses out there know so very well,or there placing documents that have done what they where ment to do,make me into a complete idoit.Start off I would have glady pay a person in the helping me under a personal arrangment,but how to start with no funds.I haven't quite but as most will agree I'v not or was able to aquirer aanything,that would helped and if I missed if that would be my fault and I would have to aplogize. But still felling there still is an unfairness to these rule that I'm still fighting to understand or find.Point to most of all of what is said here the rug is continuly,in some way deverted away buy some maner if there is of any substance to help,because were still very much in the dark.If atthis can also cover a way to give answer to another issue and moving forward if there is away to allow,HP,and Intell,that I give promission to move on the working of all inovations to places into developing of more working amaginations as possable,If not to late and to share as much as possable is to all people benift,to allow other companies to working new development of countless ideas,and will alway be that way,not allow as many that want to partisapat, In no less then a crim. Ideas are a for the finding,anyone has the ablity,looking and finding is unamaginable when a discover comes,it in all of us you just have to apply your self,no mater big to small,I find no difference in size, it's the finding,that make for the worth in going on the hunt,or working anidea in not having anything to work with and yey you already have much or all,it can be put many ways but the fact is the imagination has produced an idea and it's worth the find to fale or win,but be it knowen that I'v seen many say that there idea just came to be with someone ele's name all because they thought is was to silly or it would fly and know there kicking them selve's as I have also done.Well in the closing I have to say for the past that is fact to my body and the exspementions,that I have to continue staying off computer for it takes a week to reduce my problem and In my Opinion I'm still fighting a battle as before,that after the 100 time and more of seen the same and no progress,but to only thoughs of the other side continue to live very well, I can't find anymore a reason to give to the greedy that have billions and still lust for power,money,greed, and they shurly care nothing to the hell we've continue to see a smoothering us to the end.Still I continue to try but why,because I am build to try or die,for all you youg people,yes,I find it worth all I'v done,in the useing of my creative developing,there well be many that felt they can't,and then,then if you don't try,how will you evey no,and worce is what I'v stated you find,that someone eles has continued in what could have giving you that undeiable accomplishment of you work is created by you or you were the first and that somthing that is your though your whole life you can and should be very proud of and don't forget to thank your higher power to, but it is a amazing to feel and additcing to go for more ,indurance and pations is the key and yet there are manything that come in to play, but on a break though there no stopping you'll be hooked,one is enough for a life time and should that be the case, give know reason not to join the rakes of any amount another has,because seacail is hard and easy,and sometime losing,but there is always the learning and time that is a big gain, nothing is frogotin and can be used in other areas but most importantly it preped you for the next idea and that is a good or better in away of a jump start, this is all stait from the hart and I hope all to find what I found,I feel as when it do happen in just wring my reason to working your amaginations.just remember that although I truly never have been in anyway reconized, to me it will have still be all it's worth,and wouldn't change a thing,that is in development,blieve,and you can find your selfmade dream,that has full reallity impact I call it,that has a power you want in the developing of true to the core cofedence,thust me it better then power it self, all thought power is good but in very few hands should it ever be placed in,for it's a constant to coruption that 3/4 should never be trusted with, that why I prefer the steingth in one self is seen with out saying,there much that could be said but hopfuly most will find and open there own door,don't give it away. thank you Michael A. Wandersee the inovator to cybrospace and beyond,million and tillions and more, does there be a door that has your nane already on it, it just waiting for you to find.
    michaela.wandersee